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How about American Re-Fuel in Westbury? Now theres a place to keep an eye on. Lots of fuel to burn. (well, it DOES haha)...Kinda like the Oceanside TOH plant. Last waste-related fire there was only a few years ago and you can still see the smoke stains. Has there been any other large-scale fires at plants like these around the island???
There is no active plan to invite them to Oceanside. And in the 30 years I have been active they have never been here. I don't know where you are getting your info from. We have never had a major fire there, the most we have ever had was the top of a tank burning from a lighting strike. Even if we had a major fire we would either fight it with the help of M/A or let it burn if it was not safe to fight. What is the city haz-mat unit going to do for us that nassau county haz-mat or ncpd haz-mat can't or won't do. Oh I forgot the city haz-mat will come in and wave there magic wand and fix everything so we can go home. Even when the tankers have overturn and/or burned they were not called.We have had several large spills over the years. And right now as of today there is only one company left operating and they only have a few tanks left. Most have been dismantled. The large hazard that existed years ago is long gone.
Thank god for the Buckeye Pipeline. Years ago we had quite a few now were down to 2
plus 2 in Meadomere Park district. We even had our share of good fires and quite a few major spills. The worst tank farm fire we had was handled by us and local MA ; I do remember a large spill at Shell Oil where FDNY rolled in and they were politely told
that their assistance was not needed. Also all major oil companies have trained employees on site plus a large supply of foam on hand and they are usually willing to assist local Depts even if the incident is not in their own facility.
thanks for the help the other day G2W...we fixed the problem that night! i got nervous today i saw Squad 270 with the second piece coming into nassau i thought the bay park sewage treatment plant blew up, luckily it was only high co levels in the rockaways!
FDNY will not be called to the plant. Their not in any pre-plan, or command post plan. Bay Park Plant is a county plant. NC Hazmat will be called in. There alot of employes who are ERFD members. 405-a knows that whole plant, and 401 is a NY state liscene WPC operator. They know what their doing.
bill bennett has several good pics of the bay park rescue a few years back...as far as HM teams...NCFM...NCPD ESU...930 HM...we have quite a good amount of resources in the county...
Not knocking anyone but I'm just curious...How did Hicksville end up with such an advanced Haz-Mat Team? Did/Do they protect anything that would require the possibility of such a response team? Are they special-requested/mutual aided a lot or on any county-wide response plan? Hats off to them either way, its a wonderful thing to have these days...
thanks for the help the other day G2W...we fixed the problem that night! i got nervous today i saw Squad 270 with the second piece coming into nassau i thought the bay park sewage treatment plant blew up, luckily it was only high co levels in the rockaways!
guns it was HM-1 that was going mutual aid. not SQ 270.
FDNY will not be called to the plant. Their not in any pre-plan, or command post plan. Bay Park Plant is a county plant. NC Hazmat will be called in. There alot of employes who are ERFD members. 405-a knows that whole plant, and 401 is a NY state liscene WPC operator. They know what their doing.
gee i thought 405-A was a carpenter and 401 was a emt-cc for several fire districts. however i hear from several sources that 401-3 is a rescue specialist on special assignment from rescue 4 to a s.i. ladder company boarding n.j. if there is another confined space rescue he can call m/a form his brothers in rescue 6 or 8.
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gee i thought 405-A was a carpenter and 401 was a emt-cc for several fire districts. however i hear from several sources that 401-3 is a rescue specialist on special assignment from rescue 4 to a s.i. ladder company boarding n.j. if there is another confined space rescue he can call m/a form his brothers in rescue 6 or 8.
I hope nothing ever happens but it would be interesting to see how that would play out. Again, not starting any S**T but some people are thin skin and feelings get bent very easly. Don't matter to me as long as the job gets done and every one goes home safe.
this is a big what if and hopefully would never happen, but what if something were to happen and there was a major fire in the sewage plant? would there be evacuations? maybe a staging area a few blocks away b/c of the possible fumes? personally i feel that if it was a major incident that it would become a nassau county invitational . . i know for a fact that if there was a decent fire there that Haz1Mat fromt he FDNY would be responding . . . does anyone talk about this place on a sunday other than my dept?
Perhaps you should open up the Pre-Plan binder in the cab of your truck. I know we have a fairly detailed plan for the sewer plant in ours.
Not knocking anyone but I'm just curious...How did Hicksville end up with such an advanced Haz-Mat Team? Did/Do they protect anything that would require the possibility of such a response team? Are they special-requested/mutual aided a lot or on any county-wide response plan? Hats off to them either way, its a wonderful thing to have these days...
They have a large area of heavy industrial / manufacturing.
Also, they have the money to afford the resources, equipment and training that it takes to have the team.
And having manpower to keep it running doesn't hurt either.
Re: Bay Park Sewage Plant
