NACFAST BULLETIN - Countywide Technical Rescue Team
The Special Operations Committee of the Nassau County Fire Commission will be hosting a meeting on Wednesday, April 7th, at 8:00pm at Garden City HQ, 347 Stewart Avenue (between Franklin and Hilton) for anyone interested in joining a County Wide Technical Rescue Team and Support Unit.
Chief Instructor John P. Brown of the Nassau County Fire Service Academy will outline the program, and will go over the requirements, classes, certifications, etc. involved. Class A interior firefighters and certified EMS personnel are invited. Probationary members may attend the meeting, but are not qualified to participate.
Please contact 1st Battalion Chairman Rick Gardner with any questions at rg1400@aol.com.
what jurisdiction will they have. when and what will they be called to? i thought this was a county hazmat team that is now turned into a Special operations unit. What and whose equiptment will be utilized in the event of whatever they are to respond to? and who is in charge or a commanding officer of this unit? just a few questions i am sure there are people that are curious about this.
what jurisdiction will they have. when and what will they be called to? i thought this was a county hazmat team that is now turned into a Special operations unit. What and whose equiptment will be utilized in the event of whatever they are to respond to? and who is in charge or a commanding officer of this unit? just a few questions i am sure there are people that are curious about this.
All excellent questions, but this isn't the place to ask them. Go to the meeting, ask them all, then come back and post the answers.
another level . just what we need,
you have teams that work together now, 6th Batt. fizzled out after some time.
how will a county wide trt team work out. If there was a problem with what is out there then that should be addressed. is it that we need a county team or is it a part that others want to be involved but are not in the departments that have a trt team?
Hopefully, the commission takes into consideration that there are a couple of departments that have well stocked, qualified units that train hard and have been responding to these incidents upon request for any department that needs them. I guess we will have to wait and see what their intentions are.
Unreal, It's not even past the organizational stage and you guys are killing it already. With that attitude you probably won't be on the team anyway.
Absolutly Right This is a pro-active committee who are asking for input. I believe the idea is to get more firefighters trained in different
areas of the county ; with the current manpower situation we all face
it would be a benefit to the current teams and to spread resources around the county would reduce response times to incidents .
Absolutly Right This is a pro-active committee who are asking for input. I believe the idea is to get more firefighters trained in different
areas of the county ; with the current manpower situation we all face
it would be a benefit to the current teams and to spread resources around the county would reduce response times to incidents .
I have to jump on the "unreal" bandwagon also. People are always complaining that there should be more guidance/action at the county level. Yet, at the first sign of it there are detracters.
I am not sure how many departments have trt right now (maybe 2, 3 tops). What if they all happen to have a sig 10 at the same time? Or they all just don't have manpower? Or there are multiple simultaneous situations that require the teams?
The strong accept and embrace change. Only the weak hold onto the past just because it is comfortable.
I think this is a GREAT idea. Maybe the Fire Marshals office will run it, or maybe they will have a chief foe each Battalion, or maybe, who knows,,,,, Go to the meeting and let us know what happens.
It's a great idea for departments to specialize in different areas. For example, if one department had a vac truck with all the right attachments that would have greatly helped the incident a few months ago in Roslyn. It is cheaper and less manpower intensive than having 2 trucks with a whole TRT set-up, you would be performing a valuable service, and you would get called all over (keeping members interested).
i am not knocking anything and i will be at the meeting. but remember a few months ago this county hazmat started. there has been no faxes updates into any aspect of what they respond to how they respond and what was needed from each dept except a list of qualified members. with recent hazmat events you have decon teams that call other decon teams because they were assigned and this did not go through the actual incident commander, now the incident commander is losing that span of control. there are alot of variables to consider.
and i dont know if there is a thread i guess i didnt see it but what is the status of the county hazmat and not the fire marshal office?? that has been together for some time and still not operating guidelines have been faxed or email on their operation. i know how to get the lirr water tanker and its eta and what comes with it. but i still have nothing in writing about what where who and how this county hazmat team assembles or responds?? this stemmed from that so that is all.
I think its a great idea. But the county wont have enough money to equip the truck with radios because of the amount of different frequencies in this county. I can only imagine how much of a hassle it would be to for the team to try and get a progress report while responding in, when the message has to go through 3 different dispatchers (not that it would be a dispatchers error).
I cant speak for the other posts, but I certainly didnt bash or put down the idea, I just stated that it would be " considerate" for them to somehow utilize the resources that are in play right now and not dismiss them. Im all for organization....and special units...when other depts need a Hazmat, they call Hicksville...When they need TRT's...it's Bethpage,N.Bellmore and Freeport...along with East Farmingdale...Just curious how a countywide unit will work out....
Unreal, It's not even past the organizational stage and you guys are killing it already. With that attitude you probably won't be on the team anyway.
Your wright,Its because of people like this the fire service here is all screwed up. This sounds like a good idea that might benefit every dept. I believe westhcer county and I think orange of dutchess run a county wide team that works. Don't kill the idea just yet.
I think its a great idea. But the county wont have enough money to equip the truck with radios because of the amount of different frequencies in this county. I can only imagine how much of a hassle it would be to for the team to try and get a progress report while responding in, when the message has to go through 3 different dispatchers (not that it would be a dispatchers error).
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Isn't this what the county-wide frequency is for? I am willing to bet that there is no real practical reason why this shouldn't work, other than the almighty dollar which we can't control. If it doesn't work, it may be because the county doesn't follow through and we never hear about it again, or the existing trt departments feel slighted and won't cooperate (I am NOT suggesting they will not cooperate. As far as i know, Bethpage and N. Bellmore will be as cooperative and professional with this new item as they are in all of their dealings). But neither of these two reasons are really good ones.
We in the fire service tend to be stubborn and tenacious, which is typically what makes us good at our jobs and good at staying alive. But, for progress to occur, for us to continue to get better at what we do, we have to learn to be as adaptive to changing ideas in the meeting room as we are to changing conditions at a working fire.
Maybe the TRT teams in place now will still be called in, but in addition this will probably allow members to join in with these squads. It could be a way for members from different departments to train together get certified in all the necessary classes, and if their is an emergency then some guys could go to the scene in their private vehicles and provide some sort of credentials allowing them access and also allowing the IC to know who they are since it would be impossible for anyone to know every one on a county wide volunteer team. Just some ideas
FYI- Sometimes this some goes to the ole recycle bin, but there are a few upcoming classes to benefit those interested. On April 26th the Town of babylon chiefs is presenting "First due view of a technical incident" given by Capt Tony Tedeschi of FDNY SOC and member of Deer Park FD. It will be held at No Babylon fire Co 7p-10p. Also the county is offering a Trench Awareness class open to 2 members of each department on April 17th at the Homeland Security Building in Bethpage, see your chief for further. The state is offering several WMD/Bio classes at the Bethpage facility in the near future as well. New York State Office of Homeland Security <~~calendar of training
It's funny how a county to the north of us, was able to organize a County Hazmat team and TRT , but Nassau can't get enough people on the same page to do so.
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