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Old 06-26-2009, 12:13 PM   #1
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Any truth to the rumors that Ferrara will be making new rearmount ladders for the city?



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Old 06-26-2009, 12:38 PM   #2
 
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hey chief i heard that rumor also or i actually think it is confirmed they are doing that..pm lctruck 10 on here ...he is a big ferrara guy and would know more....be safe...


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Old 06-26-2009, 01:02 PM   #3
 
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they won the bid


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Old 06-26-2009, 01:06 PM   #4
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i hear they are getting big numbers of ladders and engines


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Old 06-26-2009, 02:01 PM   #5
 
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Ferrara won the bid for RMA's.... forgot the number though (25?)

Seagrave currently has an ongoing contract for (??? #) of Engines and also ???# of 75' TL's.

"Newer" Seagrave Engines....




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Old 06-26-2009, 06:28 PM   #6
 
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Great for ferrara but wonder what it will to to that company big responsibility dealing with city , will departments now be behind the city , as ferrara already seems backed up as many departments trucks have not ben started ie albertson adn bethpage , that i know of ,



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Old 06-26-2009, 06:45 PM   #7
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Hey I also see the city is getting 2000gpm Seagrave Engines...I thought the 2000 GPM was just a vollie thing


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Old 06-26-2009, 08:03 PM   #8
 
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Great for ferrara but wonder what it will to to that company big responsibility dealing with city , will departments now be behind the city , as ferrara already seems backed up as many departments trucks have not ben started ie albertson adn bethpage , that i know of ,
Were they "not started"- or has the final contract yet to be signed... or are "pics" not up on the website....big diff...

Just because the "Trucks in Production" website for ANY manufacturer isnt updated daily doesnt mean the schedule has changed....

LOL I can throw a pic of a chassis on a website and say " XYZ's truck" in production....


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Old 06-26-2009, 09:05 PM   #9
 
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I thought the City was dabbling with Pierce, as R-1 is a Pierce. After 9-11 the City was given a Ferrara Engine, I saw it in Manhattan a couple of times, but then I believe it was taken out of service.


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Old 06-26-2009, 10:23 PM   #10
 
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No the Ferraras are still in service Engine 54 in Manhattan is still in service and I am positive that there is another two or three Ferrara engines floating around in queens and brooklyn.


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Old 06-27-2009, 01:47 AM   #11
 
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The only Pierce the city has is Rescue 1.

Ferrara Engines are still in except for the one donated to New Orleans.

All the Rescue Collapses, Decon Rigs, Satellites, HazMat 1, etc are all Ferrara's.












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Old 06-27-2009, 08:39 AM   #12
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Spin, hey, whats up?....I believe there are 9 assigned 2000 gpm engines in high rise districts and they are designated high pressure engines....I guess out here, the 2000 gpm is needed for second floor fires.....


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Also , 2000 gpm Engines are needed for wetdowns as well


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Old 06-27-2009, 01:28 PM   #14
 
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Also , 2000 gpm Engines are needed for wetdowns as well
lol exactly!!


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Old 06-27-2009, 08:42 PM   #15
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Spin, hey, whats up?....I believe there are 9 assigned 2000 gpm engines in high rise districts and they are designated high pressure engines....I guess out here, the 2000 gpm is needed for second floor fires.....

According to the latest Fire Apparatus Journal they are getting a total of 69 regular 200gpms. Thats a major change for them.


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Old 06-27-2009, 08:52 PM   #16
 
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They have about 38 engines in service right now. The 2008 order is done they are now working on the 2009 rigs. What I mean what model they come in as. There is no change in them just the shop number is about it.
They are nice rig. Some FF like them but I hear the Engine Bosses doesn’t like them. Not enough room.


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Old 06-27-2009, 10:27 PM   #17
 
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Its nice having the open walk in cab but you lost your two spots by the window. MDT in the crew cab is clutch. As for the boss, hes squished up there


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Old 06-28-2009, 09:56 AM   #18
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hopefully what ever is put into the city it can hold up to the work and beating the companies put on their apparatus. but when it comes down to it and the LCC starts doing things with the new rig that maybe hasnt been done in other areas of the country then the test will prove if it can hold its ground.


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Old 06-30-2009, 12:29 AM   #19
 
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Can only imagine what the "new" ladders can do. Used to do some crazy shit with the old ( circa 1980's-90's ) ones. The new ones I see out there today the last fly is heavier than the bed ladder on the old ones. Would love to take the windows just one more time!


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Old 06-30-2009, 05:00 PM   #20
 
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Question is will the new Ferrara / Smeal aerials have pre-piped waterways or just run as a regular non pre-piped stick.


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Old 06-30-2009, 05:02 PM   #21
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hopefully non prepiped waterways..... for the amount of work that they get they probably will destroy them....


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Old 06-30-2009, 07:34 PM   #22
 
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i highly doubt they will but prepiped waterways.......


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Old 06-30-2009, 07:55 PM   #23
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Hey is this a done deal? I posted this somewhere else and everyone on that board thinks I'm crazy...and they don't even know of my Quisp cereal and Dublin Dr. Pepper breakfast ritual.


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Old 06-30-2009, 08:05 PM   #24
 
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The ladder itself will be similar to the Elmont truck with no waterway. The bolt on section will be very similar to what is currently in service by the city.

Here is a link to the Elmont rig:

In Production


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Ferrara won the bid based upon $’s, however as far as I know the contract has not yet been awarded. The vendor bid submissions (spec’s) are being carefully reviewed to ensure compliance with FDNY’s very detailed specifications & requirements.

The nameplates on FDNY rigs may say Ferrara, Seagrave, Pierce or whomever. However, the very - very detailed spec and rig that ultimately gets built is --- FDNY --- from Wiring, Chassis –Xmembers, Body, Cab, Aerial Structure, Stabilization System (jacks), Materials Utilized, Lube System, 5 Year bumper to bumper warranty and so on. In order for a MFG to complete for FDNY contracts they usually must re-engineer modifications to their existing product whether it be an Aerial or Engine – Body, Chassis and Cab with the exception of some one off rigs. Seagrave has an advantage in the game simply because they’ve been building rigs to pre-existing and recently modified spec’s for decades. They’ve been supplying the engines to FDNY for approx 20 years and the majority of the Aerials for around 50.

I guess the bottom line is while it looks good for Ferrara we really won’t truly know until the actual contract has been awarded by DCAS. If someone out there has more current info regarding the awarding of the contract feel free.

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