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Anyone have a Commercially made forcible entry simulator, like Powerjamb, The Inforcer or Friction Force? Or something that I didnt mention. If you do, do you like or dislike it? I can buy a unit for my Dept, up $7500 which is plenty. I'd rather not build something, although I know thats alot cheaper. With the commercial units you dont have to keep finding doors to force.
Thanks.
If i was buying one for my dept having used a few i would go for the friction force tactical version (single door as opposed to half door). The power jamb doesnt really let you practice the proper technique. Good luck in what you choose.
I just saw a demo video at my firehouse from a city fireman who built a very good one that seems to be a lot better than the ones mentioned above. Try newcomer58 he would have more info. This unit allowed you to practice many different techniques and had many different resistance levels so you could start the new guys off and let them get some confidence then work their way up. In the video he was doing conventional FE and even using the rabbit tool with the hard resistance and it looked very realistic and challenging even for someone with a lot of experience. I think it would be worth a look.
"Homemade" devices are typically cheaper (and sometimes better) than "Pre-fabbed" ones.
...As always, use your imagination. Joe Firefighter is getting a new front door. Have him donate the old one to the FD instead of throwing it @ the curb.....
...Any lock that gets cut comes home with ya- Even a cut lock offers a look into its operation, how we do what we do, etc....
...We "acquired" a roll down gate & frame from a local business.... needless to say it offered countless training exercises....
...The best training tools are also usually the cheapest.
For the few times you are going to use it get the store bought one... it sets up the same way every time and you dont have to be super handy to hang a door or set up multiple locks.. My experience is with the power jamb and friction force.. i didnt get to play with the other one (made by the city guy)but i will see him and get some info for you in the next week or so..
Anyone have a Commercially made forcible entry simulator, like Powerjamb, The Inforcer or Friction Force? Or something that I didnt mention. If you do, do you like or dislike it? I can buy a unit for my Dept, up $7500 which is plenty. I'd rather not build something, although I know thats alot cheaper. With the commercial units you dont have to keep finding doors to force.
Thanks.
We have the Friction Force simulator at our Training tower. If you would like to demo it PM me, and we can set something up.
The M-LFD was able to purchase a Friction Force Training Door through a grant we received this past year. It is very sturdy and a great training tool. If the money is available, spend it on training equipment.
Go w/ the F/E Door from Firehouse Innovations, Corp. (Bro from L175). It is about 35% less expensive than similar units; built to be used and a great training aid to have in the firehouse. Wish we had this 25 years ago! PM me if you need additional info.
The one that the brother from squad 41 makes is available from css-safetyservices.com this is a big steel frame that you screw doors to and use a c beam and screws to lock. the only problem is you need to get doors wooden or metal.. we had one in my old company too.. i didnt get to see the one from the guy from 175's.. Good luck bro with whatever you choose
The one that the brother from squad 41 makes is available from css-safetyservices.com this is a big steel frame that you screw doors to and use a c beam and screws to lock. the only problem is you need to get doors wooden or metal.. we had one in my old company too.. i didnt get to see the one from the guy from 175's.. Good luck bro with whatever you choose
I do not like the idea of having to swap doors out everytime you train on the simulator. In my mind, it is much easier to have a forcible entry simulator that takes only 10 seconds to "reset" and allows my members to pound away at the door one after another without hesitation. I just don't see the above application being practical. Also, where are you getting the doors from?
Forcible Entry Simulators
