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Old 07-30-2008, 11:25 AM   #1
 
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A Roosevelt man died yesterday after a freak accident while on a fishing outing with his family last week.Jaime Chicas, 21, was fishing off a jetty at the west end of Jones Beach on Friday when his 3-ounce lead sinker came out of the water and hit him in the face and then lodged in his brain."Suddenly, we saw him laying on the rocks," said Jose Gonzalez, 30, Chicas' brother-in-law. Gonzalez and his cousin, who both had been fishing with Chicas, ran over to find Chicas bleeding from his head."We never could have imagined this," Gonzalez said through an interpreter.The trio had gone fishing a few times before and visited the beach often, Gonzalez said. While the sun set, Chicas kept fishing, as the others began packing their belongings. As Gonzalez and his cousin walked toward the beach, they heard Chicas make a whimpering noise behind them.After looking at X-rays, doctors at Nassau University Medical Center, where Chicas was taken, saw that the sinker of Chicas' fishing pole had just missed his right eye and entered his head at the bridge in his nose. The momentum of the weight continued across the middle of his brain into the back left side of his head, where it stopped, neurologist Imran Wahedna said."There was so much force that it kept going and it lodged through the back of his head," Wahedna said of the lead sinker. "The trauma was simply too severe."Chicas was pronounced brain-dead at 2 p.m. yesterday, from severe head trauma and herniation, Wahedna said.Wahedna and New York Fishing Tackle Trade Association president Gene Young all said they had never seen anything similar to Chicas' injury."This has to be a one-in-a-billion thing," Young said.Chi


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Old 07-30-2008, 01:41 PM   #2
 
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news 12 said the fatality in this incident was also a member of the soccer team that the 5 players were all hit by lightning the other day


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Old 07-30-2008, 01:56 PM   #3
 
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How did the sinker gain so much velocity that it was able to break the skull and continue to penetrate into the brain?


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Old 07-30-2008, 02:44 PM   #4
 
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It must have shot out of the water like a bullet. He must have been really pulling on that snagged line


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guess it was meant to be for this guy.....


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Old 07-30-2008, 05:13 PM   #6
 
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How did the sinker gain so much velocity that it was able to break the skull and continue to penetrate into the brain?
Well, I don't know anything about the case but I'm thinking the average sea-fishing weight will probably be larger/heavier than most if not all handgun bullets. If the line got snagged and the fishing rod bent, stored up a lot of energy, the line then snapped but the weight remained attached to it and came flinging back in your direction at a ridiculous speed and was a decent weight and hit you the right way (many fishing weights are bullet/teardrop shaped) it would likely contain enough kinetic energy to do what happened. The odds astronomical but so are the odds for the lottery and people still "win" that every day. If you're wondering how much energy a bent piece of wood can store, just think of a hunting bow, crossbow, catapult, etc...


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Old 07-30-2008, 05:36 PM   #7
 
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Most surf fishing weights are actually pyramid shaped with a nice point on them.


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Old 07-30-2008, 06:05 PM   #8
 
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Most surf fishing weights are actually pyramid shaped with a nice point on them.
Any idea how much they weigh? A larger .45 bullet weighs in the area of 15 grams... One of the largest rifle calibers I could find, the .700 Nitro Express (VERY large) weighed in around 65 grams with the venerable .30-06 Springfield's heavier bullet weights around 14 grams.


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Sounds like something you'd see on mythbusters.


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Old 07-30-2008, 06:09 PM   #10
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That's horrible. I'd keep my eyes peeled if i was a member of that jinxed soccer team.


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Old 07-30-2008, 06:10 PM   #11
 
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They can weight anywhere from 1oz on up to 6 or 7oz


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They can weight anywhere from 1oz on up to 6 or 7oz
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Any idea how much they weigh? A larger .45 bullet weighs in the area of 15 grams... One of the largest rifle calibers I could find, the .700 Nitro Express (VERY large) weighed in around 65 grams with the venerable .30-06 Springfield's heavier bullet weights around 14 grams.
So for comparison sake... 1 oz = 28.3 grams... almost twice as much as a .45 ACP bullet. 7 oz = 198.4 grams... about 3x heavier than the heaviest rifle round I found stats for. Quite the projectile if launched just right into your head.


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I'm afraid the truth is much less scientific. But I'm impressed by all the smart thinking displayed here. The weight entered the orbit (where the eye sits in the skull), and rode around the eyeball entering the brain. All this without damaging the eyeball.

When your times up......


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I'm afraid the truth is much less scientific. But I'm impressed by all the smart thinking displayed here. The weight entered the orbit (where the eye sits in the skull), and rode around the eyeball entering the brain. All this without damaging the eyeball.

When your times up......
Well, either way... ouch.


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Old 07-30-2008, 11:21 PM   #15
 
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All because of saving a $1.00 sinker and a 50 cent hook.


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Old 07-31-2008, 04:18 AM   #16
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instead of a fish in his bucket, he kicked it!


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how did they get him removed from there? its a decent walk back to the parking lot from that jetty....and its pretty rough water to get a boat against the rocks, althought they could have beached it on the east side of the jetty on the sand.


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