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I know the number of nassau county departments with narc's is something like 4 or 5, but what kind of systems do people use to secure their Narcotics on their apparatus?
The NCPD EAB has recently installed Lock boxes in anticipation of having narcotics in the near future. EAB is using the Cyber-Key.. It is the same key system that is used at the Correctional facility but for uses other than narcotics...
Wow, i only knew of East Meadow and North Bellmore. The Cyber key is a very secure locking system but can be costly for a volly dept. A lock box already built in with a key, and a pouch with a lock is what we use at work. There are inventive ways of making a cabinet a lock box--you can get a lock mechinism from home depot.
I feel narcotics are just going to be a hassle for the vollies. Accountability and liability issues. We can't even get people to check the buses out or replace expired/used meds, let alone be responsible for controlled substances. For paid systems, its different. You have to check out your bus each tour, log the drugs, etc. At least there could be some more accountability.
they cyber key is the way to go, it is easy and fast. As far as the price????? with all the Money FD's spend on stuff and the cost difference between the cyber key and other systems. My FD has a set up where you rev up the combination dial, place a key fob into a hole, punch in a code then spin the dial to open it. Where the cyber key just opens up the door and logs all the info in the key.
Well not all depts have the money, and not all depts have commissioners that will pay for it even if they had the money. I can't even get updated meds without a hassle from the commissioners or even nonrebreathers---
Bothworlds, yes, I know the exchange program--I am a medic in my dept. 2 hospitals in my area have some issues with this-- one, they keep calcium chloride,mag sulfate and amiodarone at the hosp ER locked up-- the pharmacy doesn't like dealing with us everything is EASIER SAID THAN DONE--trust me--been doing this stuff for 18 yrs.
Out of those 4 departments, how many medics are there? We have 2 active medics and 1 active CC. Our medical director doesnt want the hassle of narcs.
For 3 ALS providers it would probably be something hard to push. Most departments don't want narcotics because its a pretty big responsibility. You need someone who is willing the take the responsibility, and their not always easy to find. You need someone who WILL KEEP ON TOP OF IT 100%, meaning exchanging the meds, doing in service training for them, making sure all ALS providers know how to operate the lock box and the proper documentation for when a med is used, etc. Also you need approval from the medical director. I'm not 100% sure about the whole process but I know it is not as easy as just throwing them into the bus in a lock box.
its pretty pathetic in this day and age with all the proven facts of how beneficial narcs are, we cannot provide our residents with the best possible care because its a "hassle".
I could see if you didnt have the money, didnt have the manpower or resources but "hassle"??? maybe its time to find a medical director who can be hassled...
Well my department we have been approved by our MD, and our department said fine, but they wont agree on any lock boxes claiming their out of budget or too expensive..... so im trying to find something reasonable to show them..
Well my department we have been approved by our MD, and our department said fine, but they wont agree on any lock boxes claiming their out of budget or too expensive..... so im trying to find something reasonable to show them..
This is the screwed up priorities that constantly give us in the volly FD's a black eye. We'll spend thousands of dollars on gold leaf, covering every square inch of a rig in lights, air horns facing forward, rear and towards the sky so helicopters can hear us coming but when it comes to a lock box for narcotics, it's too pricey.
Or it's too complicated... there are literally thousands of departments in the U.S. and across the world who have already solved this problem, we do not need to re-invent the wheel here. Pick one of the solutions that has already been worked out and works for you.
If your medical director is telling you "It's too much of a hassle" to provide what has become the national standard of care and just about the ONLY thing that can be done for a stat. ep. patient, you need to find yourselves a new medical director.
Bothworlds, yes, I know the exchange program--I am a medic in my dept. 2 hospitals in my area have some issues with this-- one, they keep calcium chloride,mag sulfate and amiodarone at the hosp ER locked up-- the pharmacy doesn't like dealing with us everything is EASIER SAID THAN DONE--trust me--been doing this stuff for 18 yrs.
never questioned if you knew the exchange program, just tossing out an idea the higher ups might consider, if they don't want to part with other things they can't live without. I have members of my FD say they can not exchange stuff at the hospital, but then I walk in and it gets done.
There are ways to do this and if you would like some help with a certain hospital I will help you, and I have been doing this for 26 years
so PM me if you would like some assistance with that hospital
its pretty pathetic in this day and age with all the proven facts of how beneficial narcs are, we cannot provide our residents with the best possible care because its a "hassle".
I could see if you didnt have the money, didnt have the manpower or resources but &qu
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