three rooms deep if you notice the cat trac isnt on this tower ladder it is still in the shops (dropped off rig the other day) that is the final. the grease less boom is fine and this will go to the BOT to start asap from what mechanic told us. i like that they went with the stang that can flow water under the bucket.
now as far as the raised roof. WHY do you need it out here on long island? all it does it take away from your scrub area. the city went with a standard cab so that is the new cab like the engines. there is plenty of room in the flat roof seagraves go look at hempstead or oceansides.
That electronic siren seems like a pretty fair imitation of a mechanical siren when left alone in the automatic mode. It's only when switching back & forth between modes or using the brake that it sounds like a cat. The air horn function didn't sound too bad either.
With today's electronic technology, it seems like just about any sound can be produced. For instance on railroads, there are now electronic bells at some street crossings that sound very close to a mechanical bell. And some light-rail trains in cities out west use an electronic horn that sound like a real diesel locomotive air-horn. And so it goes.......
like previouly mentioned homer1075 that has the cat trac system that the city did not what that is the new design of the aerialscope. but the FDNY wanted reels just like the old one. and what they city wants they get. so seagrave is stuck with that aerialscope to sell b/c they didnt want to take that design. this will go with the new ferrara rear mounts that are coming into the FDNY if they dont like something they dont take it.
what companies will do to get a contract.
yeah exactly.... with that and i dont want it to go off topic but if i need to crush the cab of a rig with the boom to save a firefighters life the rig better be able to do that.
All 2008+ FDNY Engine/Ladder apparatus come equipped with the Federal Signal E-Q2B Siren, which has the immitation electronic q-siren that sounds like a cat dying ...
We had one on our old bus. We called it the duck f*ck siren.
All it is is an audible tone that goes of when your with in so many feet of the cab with the boom. like the warning alarm that goes off when you but the jacks down
yeah exactly.... with that and i dont want it to go off topic but if i need to crush the cab of a rig with the boom to save a firefighters life the rig better be able to do that.
we had that issue when we were looking at rigs a few years back...its amazing that some rigs have no overrides...as you stated...you want maximum versatility and function...
i saw that illustrated at an arch once when a dept had trouble setting up...their computer wouldnt allow them movement...now i dont know whos fault that was...in some cases the limits can be changed...either way i dont wanna be the guy who has to tell the person at the window or the FF at the window..."id love to help you but my computer said no"
just a random question... is the FDNY exempt from the chevrons?
The chevron requirement comes from NFPA, NFPA is not law only OSHA is. NFPA is highly regarded and taken by some as law. NFPA is not a government agency and does not have that level of authority. An example is FDNY helmets, the bourkes flip eye covers are not approved by NFPA but are OSHA approved. Same goes for chevrons, emergency lighting, etc
Yes, but NFPA is a National Standard. While you certainly can do what you wish, most manufacturers make you "sign off" on non-NFPA changes / additions.
It's very simple. NFPA may not be law, but all of the "standards" are court proven.
If a truck is rear ended and was built in 2009 or later without the chevrons, and it winds up going through our wonderful legal system where everyone is looking for money, then it is going to come out in court. Most likely, it is not going to come out in favor of the municipality.
As I said, they're not laws, but when something happens, they're just as powerful as laws.
Why does the panel behind the cab on the officers' side stick out so far? The drop foot step is imbedded in the panel and looks to be too far from where you would actually need it. Also, the remote spot light on the cab will most likely be broken within weeks of geting the rig.
I think the reels are a good idea. The shops can replace one reel and its hose if need be, rather than replace an entire cat-trac. Keeps rigs in service for smaller issues rather than having to go to LIC for hours, or worse stripping the rig.
Why the bar over door on the bucket? Just something else that's gonna get in our way when trying to get out of the bucket into the window, or back in from a window.
I applaud the apparatus committee for their hard work, but I think they forget the ease and simplicity of the old design, and why it was made that way in the first place.
Why does the panel behind the cab on the officers' side stick out so far? The drop foot step is imbedded in the panel and looks to be too far from where you would actually need it. Also, the remote spot light on the cab will most likely be broken within weeks of geting the rig.
I think the reels are a good idea. The shops can replace one reel and its hose if need be, rather than replace an entire cat-trac. Keeps rigs in service for smaller issues rather than having to go to LIC for hours, or worse stripping the rig.
Why the bar over door on the bucket? Just something else that's gonna get in our way when trying to get out of the bucket into the window, or back in from a window.
I applaud the apparatus committee for their hard work, but I think they forget the ease and simplicity of the old design, and why it was made that way in the first place.
Stay safe
DC
JMO...The reason for the "Mansaver " bar over the bucket door is the fact that the door is not spring loaded, it has a manual (drop) latch to close and open it and it looks to me like the door swings both ways,(no pun intended). The bucket doors on our tower swing in only, are spring loaded have auto locking latches and can be shoved open from the exterior of the bucket in case the member has to get into the bucket quickly. It's not the most efficient setup for entering and exiting upper floors from the bucket but I feel it's the safest for the members operating. In the same breath the members should be belted in with some type of tether line with a life belt on, it is an SOP in our dept...
I am trying to remember our '93 Pierce. I think the doors opened out.
Our 91 Pierce had outward swinging doors with a mansaver type bar in top of the doors. I think in the mid to late 90's they started installing the inward type and had no need for the mansaver bars..
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