[Wanderer]

Chief Billy G. has a slide show at his seminars of overcrowding, among other things, that we (the fireservice) do everyday in every state that makes you drop your jaw when you see it. He plays music to the show and I have seen 2 versions of this presentation ( I believe the song he uses is "You had a bad day....") Educating the general Johny Q fireman and learning from our mistakes in the hope that no one repeats these "shots" is the main focus and everyone goes home safe. Injuries are avoided and so are firefighter fatalities in some extreme cases.

[MFD594]

I'm "resurrecting" this thread....

A) For the benefit of "newbies"

B) To re-illustrate 2 key factors,
1) Safety

2) The "Limited Manpower" theory....

..."Too many cooks spoil the broth" (or however it goes)....

...How many people can you fit in your house or apartment when you have a party? Now throw a handline, some SCBA's & turnout gear on them and how many can you fit then?

..."Limited Manpower" isnt always a terrible thing- thats why god invented mutual aide. BUT, people should be AWARE & TRAINING for the possibility that only 10 people might show up for a daytime working fire.

(And, quite frankly, sometimes 10 is better than 50)



[quote=MFD594;118283]*NOTE* The pictures below are not meant to criticize ANY dept's operation, they are purely to illustrate a point or two.

One the the best things about our gig is TEAMWORK. We're all more than willing to help each other out all the time. But sometimes, ya have to put the brakes on and stop & take a look. Some times too much is enough.....




Granted, a 2.5" line. But, trying to advance a 2.5" with 6 guys right on top of each other is a challenge.


Thats one tight stairwell! Where's everyone gonna end up? What if one of the brothers has to get out quick?

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[milliondollartoolbox]

6 guys on a 2 1/2 is fine but they need to be spread out more unlike the picture. There should be the nozzle and back-up man up close then the door-man(4th man) and controlman(5th man) and so on can spread out along the line making it easier for the nozzleman to advance the line.