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Old 04-12-2007, 03:49 PM   #1
 
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Has anyobdy here gone through the drill and if so what are the thoughts on it? We made the obstacles awhile back in Wantagh and used it for a work call.


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Old 04-12-2007, 04:59 PM   #2
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I have seen it. We are going to put it in our new training building.


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Old 04-12-2007, 05:14 PM   #3
 
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what type of training building are you gonna be using? What are some features it will have?


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Old 04-14-2007, 12:43 AM   #4
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It is a 3 story cargo storage type building. It has rope station. Roof cutting station on the second level. 2 or 3 smoke machines. It has 2 fe doors. There is a total of 8 boxes. It looks like 930s put 1 more floor.


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Old 04-20-2007, 02:32 AM   #5
 
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can anyone explain this drill?


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Old 04-20-2007, 11:49 AM   #6
 
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Did it originate in Pittsburgh hence the name??


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Old 04-21-2007, 05:22 PM   #7
 
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This is the post from where I got the information. It is off of a different web site.

The Pittsburgh Drill was developed by the Rapid Intervention Training Associates staff to force train your RIT to work as a team. If any one of the team members that have entered the obstacle course fail to give anything but 100% the entire team will fail the drill. The obstacle course is 50 ft in length with 3 obstacles evenly spaced out to encounter (under/over/through). The first is a small wall breach (low profile), the second is an A-frame (3 pallets screwed together), and the third is a 10-12 ft tube (three 55 gallon drums welded together or wood chute 10' long and 20" wide square) and another low profile. A section of 1 3/4 inch hose is stretched from the entrance of the course through all 3 obstacles to the firefighter victim at the end (preferrably a 150 to 175 lb dummy in fire gear, SCBA, and facemask on - rather than a live victim, they will get to beat up). A minimum of a 4 person, to a maximum of 5 person team will enter the course with facepieces covered (wax paper works great and simulates a smokey vision). The catch here is the team only gets a maximum of 20 minutes to complete this course. They have to maneuver all three obstacles to the victim then work as a team to bring the victim back through the obstacle course while on air. At the entrance to the third obstacle (the tube), two team members will low profile through the tube to the victim while the remaining crew waits in place at the entrance of the tube. Once through the tube, the condition of the victim is that he has a good air supply but is unconscious. The two team members must prepare the victim for a low profile back through the tube using a handcuff knot or girth hitch. The victim is rolled out of their SCBA, the handcuff knot is tied to the victims arms or girth hitch to the chest, victim SCBA is tied off in front of the victim on the handcuff knot rope keeping the victim in a low profile. The rope has been thrown back through to the team members waiting. These members will pull the rope with the SCBA and victim back through the tube. The two members will now low profile back through. Once everyone is back through the third obstacle the team works together to maneuver the victim over the second obstacle (A-frame). Send two rescuers over the A-frame before the victim so that they can pull from the opposite side, then onto the first obstacle (wall breach). The team must send two members through the breach first to pull from the opposite side. The remaining team positions the victim into the breach and pushes the victim through as the team members on the opposite side pull the victim through. The rest of the team must get themselves through the breach and assist getting the victim to the starting point where the time will stop. The victims facepiece must remain on the face the entire obstacle course. If it dislodges, the team is stopped to fix it (which eats up time). The team is on air through the entire course. Spare SCBA or SCBA cylinders may be kept at the entrance to the course and if (sorry, when) a team members low air alarm sounds, they must follow the course hose back to the spare cylinder to change out and get back into the obstacle course to continue to help with the extrication. The faster you change out, the faster the team works as a group again. If you elect to peter out and stay out, the team must continue without you. If you run out of air while on the course you will be pulled off the team reducing their manpower. Once the clock hits 20 minutes the drill is terminated regardless of where the victim is in the obstacle course. The average time I have recorded is 18 to 20 minutes. A lot of teams are stopped at the 20 minute mark at the first obstacle on the way back out with the victim. If it weren't for a few screw ups, they would have made it. A good time is 18 to 20 minutes. A great time is 16 to 18 minutes. An exceptional time is 14 to 16 minutes. Anything under 14 minutes is superman status and you can come be my RIT anytime. The current record time is 6:30 held by the Yakima, Washington Fire Department. It was an honor to watch this team encounter this drill. Truly top knotch. This by far is the most difficult RIT team drill out there that covers a wide range of skills. The importance of the Pittsburgh Drill is not in completing the course in under 20 minutes but to make the team work together in an urgent capacity while sharpening important RIT skills at the same time. Make it a competition. It can be fun to train too. We have put the RIT combat drills seminar on at the Firehouse Expo in Baltimore, Firehouse World in San Diego, and FDIC Indy and Atlantic City. Look for it at some major conferences in upcoming seminars. It is most definitely not an easy exercise but it is not impossible. It's a training tool that teaches teams to work together and share the load. It will show you how important physical fitness is in RIT operations so that we can rescue our people and not recover them. If anyone has any questions on the Pittsburgh Drill feel free to ask. You can also see it done on "Working Fire" training videos on RIT advanced operations done by the RITA staff. Stay safe...


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Old 05-15-2007, 10:23 AM   #8
 
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I think the developer of the drill is a Pittsburgh Rescue FF named Crawford who teaches this every year at FDIC in Indy. It is one of the evolutions in RIT Combat Drills. Great class if you ever have a chance to do Hands On Training (HOT) classes there. He also has runs the RIT website mentioned above. When I took the class a couple of years ago, the Pittsburgh drill was the hardest. I think the guys who work together from the same department and go to the class together have an advantage in the times. Great drill to duplicate and practice your technique, especially with blacked out face pieces. Simple thing like changing over face piece on downed FF is not as easy as you think if you never did it before on the blind. It is important to know what your neighboring towns have for SCBA when responding as a RIT team. (We had to change from a Drager to a Scott for the drill).


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Old 05-15-2007, 06:35 PM   #9
 
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Sounds like a kickass course.


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Old 05-15-2007, 10:43 PM   #10
 
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it really was a great course for the guys. We do a decent amount of training on RIT and it was good to see where we needed more practice and what areas we seemed to work well on. Once the guys knew the layout though they went through again with much better times. We used blackout pieces for the face mask and it def made the drill more difficult. The course was relatively easy and inexpensive to make. I kept sheets with times for each group where I documented times for each obstacle cleared as a team and also monitored times for when the vibra alerts went off for them individually and used these in the critique.


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Old 05-16-2007, 09:45 PM   #11
 
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The drill is awesome. It really works on team work and relying on your skills as well as the firefighters on the team with you. We did it in my department a few months back and did a few evolutions with it and it worked out great. I highly advise the use of this drill to any department looking for drill night drills.


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Old 06-14-2007, 11:38 AM   #12
 
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FS&M has a 2 story live burn trailer that has movable walls with breach cut outs. We also added an entanglement prop and reduced profile tunnel to teach firefighter survival skills. I'm going to incorporate all of that into this Pittsburgh drill, should be pretty cool.

BTW, any department is welcome to come out and use the trailer for department or company training- let me know and I'll put you in contact with the right person. It's located right in our parking lot if you want to check it out.


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Old 06-17-2007, 03:43 PM   #13
 
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yes we did that drill, heard nothing but great reviews from it, unfortunately i was away on business but i would love to try and hook it up again. the captain should have all teh right info but if it has changed form last year pm with the info please


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Old 06-18-2007, 04:58 PM   #14
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If you got to www.rapidintervertion.com and type Pittsburgh Drill. They should have a pic or signon they will give you all the info you need on that drill and more for free.


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Old 06-18-2007, 10:44 PM   #15
 
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there is a misspelling in the link above. It is www.rapidintervention.com and on the site besides for the description I have above there is a post that has pictures of the props.


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