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Old 07-13-2008, 04:11 PM   #1
 
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Curiosity has set in again....

Looking to see how different places operate re:responses (sounds broad, I know)...

Specifically, who is assigned to certain types of runs...

We have one type of alarm, general. Everyone's pager goes off for every run.

We also dont have companies, only run out of 1 house, etc.

Just curious to see "who goes to what" (zone calls, district calls, etc).

I.e. a "wires down" or transformer, co alarms, etc. Seems like everyone does something different.

Pros, cons, info- lets hear it


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Old 07-13-2008, 04:28 PM   #2
 
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My department runs basically the same as yours. We have only one house with all the apparatus together. Our whole department is 1 company which includes Engine, Truck and EMS. Our "general" tones go off for all alarms: Fires, Rescues, etc. We are all responsible for every call whether it be fire or EMS. What we have is an SOP which describes the running order of all apparatus for each type of call. This SOP is shown on a large board on the wall of the firehouse showing each type of call and what the running order is of the rigs that respond to that call.

Works well for us.


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Old 07-13-2008, 04:36 PM   #3
 
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We have three separate companies out of one building.Everybody goes on structure fires in the village.Outside the village each company has a seperate area.So when a call comes in the assigned engine,rescue and tanker rolls.If it is a large building(camp,hotel) the ladder company also rolls.If we get a m/a to another district the engine company that borders on that district responds.If the m/a is for the ladder,the ladder and the engine whos district boarders it also responds.


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6 separate companies in separate houses: truck, rescue (ems), four engine companies. Total apparatus: 2 ambulances, 1 rescue, 1 aerial, 1 aerial platform, 7 engines. Response: 6am-6pm all phone alarms and automatic alarms are general alarms (all companies). 6pm-6am automatic alarms are double-unit calls. A unit call is truck, rescue, and one engine (so alarm for unit 3 for example is truck, rescue, and hose 3), so for the double unit a second engine is added. 6pm-6am phone alarms for commercial are general alarms, for residential double unit. Auto accidents and co alarms are single unit responses 24 hours a day (truck rescue 1 engine co). Car, rubbish, etc fires are 2 engines. 9's are rescue company only (until recently an engine co was assigned m-f 4pm to 8am and all day weekends). Mutual aids are for whatever is called, but during the day it is a general and all companies report to quarters to standby until released and to respond if the first due doesn't have a crew. Engines respond to mutual aids on a zone basis.


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Old 07-13-2008, 06:12 PM   #5
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We have 4 stations. Truck and Engine...Engine...Engine and Command Post....Heavy Rescue two Ambulances.. All units roll out on General Alarms...For MVA's the District Engine,Heavy Rescue and Ambulance..For Co's Truck, Engine and Ambulance. For Water Rescue, Truck Heavy Rescue and Ambulance, For car fires 3 Engines and Ambulance. For wires, brush, etc..district Engine and Ambulance. Basically the Ambulance goes to every alarm. On Mutual Aids, if Engine is requested, it will go on a zone basis.


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Old 07-13-2008, 07:02 PM   #6
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We have 3 firehouses. 2 of the houses only have a engine and then headquarters has a truck, engine, heavy rescue, ambulance and a floodlight. 7 trucks total but 5 companies. A general is all units go (automatic alarms, house/building fire). MVAs are zone engine,truck,heavy rescue and ambulance.


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We have three separate companies out of one building.Everybody goes on structure fires in the village.Outside the village each company has a seperate area.So when a call comes in the assigned engine,rescue and tanker rolls.If it is a large building(camp,hotel) the ladder company also rolls.If we get a m/a to another district the engine company that borders on that district responds.If the m/a is for the ladder,the ladder and the engine whos district boarders it also responds.
M/A depends on the border of the engine company, do you mean the side of the building the engine is parked in ?

Just kiddin Harry.


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Old 07-13-2008, 07:55 PM   #8
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Local alarms- CO, Bells, Aideds, AFA's

Single unit response. 1 Engine Co.

Street Alarms- Natural gas, Confirmed CO, Fire reported out, Oven Fires, Shed fires

2 engines and 1 Special service ( Ladder, Rescue Squad, Rescue Engine)

Box alarm- House/Building/Apartment fire

4 engines, 2 ladders and a 3rd Special Service.


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Local alarms- CO, Bells, Aideds, AFA's

Single unit response. 1 Engine Co.

Street Alarms- Natural gas, Confirmed CO, Fire reported out, Oven Fires, Shed fires

2 engines and 1 Special service ( Ladder, Rescue Squad, Rescue Engine)

Box alarm- House/Building/Apartment fire

4 engines, 2 ladders and a 3rd Special Service.
you forgot medic locals....buff


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Old 07-14-2008, 05:24 PM   #10
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Medic Locals.

If our ambulance is in service. The ambulance goes.

If ambulance is out, wagon goes.

If its outside of our first due, its a toss up from either wagon or Ambo.

Hazmat box... thats a fun one.


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6 separate companies in separate houses: truck, rescue (ems), four engine companies. Total apparatus: 2 ambulances, 1 rescue, 1 aerial, 1 aerial platform, 7 engines. Response: 6am-6pm all phone alarms and automatic alarms are general alarms (all companies). 6pm-6am automatic alarms are double-unit calls. A unit call is truck, rescue, and one engine (so alarm for unit 3 for example is truck, rescue, and hose 3), so for the double unit a second engine is added. 6pm-6am phone alarms for commercial are general alarms, for residential double unit. Auto accidents and co alarms are single unit responses 24 hours a day (truck rescue 1 engine co). Car, rubbish, etc fires are 2 engines. 9's are rescue company only (until recently an engine co was assigned m-f 4pm to 8am and all day weekends). Mutual aids are for whatever is called, but during the day it is a general and all companies report to quarters to standby until released and to respond if the first due doesn't have a crew. Engines respond to mutual aids on a zone basis.
sounds confusing lol.. the dispatcher has his work cut out.


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Old 07-14-2008, 09:01 PM   #12
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we roll general alarms(structure fires, afa'a, co alarms, gas leaks etc.)- all unit response, and we have still alarms (car fires, wires down, afa in a residence, elevator emerg.. etc)- dispatcher's discretion on who goes, usually a 2 and 1 reponse we also have resuce calls/ems runs.

there are six stations headquarters- which holds 1 tl 1 engine and 1 bus.. jerusalem- 2 engines 1 bus... eastend- 2 hose comps... westend- 1 engine 1 floodlight.. victory- 1 engine.. southside- 1 aerial 1 hose comp and 1 fire police van. we have the option of rolling chauffer only, and members can respond to the scene in their pov's

m/a months are split between the two truck companies. the tower ladder has odd(january, march.. etc) and the aerial has even(febuary, april.. etc) i believe. unless you specifically request an engine, then one or the other trucks are going. we have companies, so if 5 truckies are on the rig ready to respond to a mutual aid and you are an engineman, you can come, but.. if a guy who is in that copany comes while you guys are on the ramp, then you get bumped. no matter how much exp. you have, as long as this other guy is trained, and not a probie.

we rarely use codes also, besides sig. 24 (request in-line pumping) 17(police) 10(call landline) and thats basically it. we call in responding by stating our company name, then saying reponding. ex.. engine 3 responding.. enigine 3 scene


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sounds confusing lol.. the dispatcher has his work cut out.
Basically auto/phone alarms get everyone during the day and truck, rescue and 2 engines at night.

Accidents/CO alarms truck rescue one engine. Car/brush, etc 2 engines.


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Old 07-15-2008, 06:58 PM   #14
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AFA'S 1E 1T
ODOR OF SMOKE 2E 1T
CO2 ALARM 1[E OR T OR R OR HM], WITH REPORT OF ILLNESS 1 [E OR T OR R OR HM], 1M-required
BOX ALARMS -4E 2T 1R 1A 1M 2EMSCAPT 2BC'S
2ND ALARM- 3E 1T 1M 1EMS 1BC 1CANTEEN 1 L&A 1 DFCO[DEPUTY CHIEF OF OPERATIONS] AND COMMUNICATION UNIT
ALS-1E 1M
CPR 1E 1M 1EMScapt
and if you want i can list the run for hazmats, plane crashes, metro rail, frieght trains, fires in oil/gas tank farms, truck fires.



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