....you pull up to it as it sits, light aircraft collides with occupied single family dwelling on the 1/3 corner, in between the garage of the dwelling next door and the house...extension to the neighboring dwelling
1 engine on scene, 1 line being stretched...
This situation at this point is a typical house fire. Life well i would say the people in the plane are dead but I would look for the residents in the house. Pending on the siz of the department i would definitely have 4 lines minimum in operation.
2 for the exterior 1 for the exposure and a back up ready to gain entry for the first floor then conitinue in so to speak with the rest of the lines.
Get a truck to the roof and a truck to do a primary in every window thats not fully engulfed
Fast a must and an additional truck for whatever work there may be additional. from the looks of it, there is definitely going to be a extensive overhaul. fire marshalls and let the FAA know i would assume??
Standy bys in quarters again pending on the size of your town 2-1-1 0r 1-1-1
3 buses on scene as well.......
Sounds good to me but I'm no fire chief...... I'm just the Indian........
I'd have the first due engine bring in a hydrant and streach an exposure line to the #2 side, first due truck to conduct a quick search of the un burned portion of the house, 2nd due engine to bring in an additional hydrant for the surround and drown operation. 2nd due truck to conduct quick secondery search, m/a truck to check the house next to for extent of extension. 3rd due engine strectch line to the house next too. Once truck dem searchs neg beging the surround and drown. My department has 3 bus' so all them the heavy rescue and then the 4th and 5th due engines can stand fast, either stretch an exposure line to the rear if need be or to the #4 side. Of cousre a f.a.s.t truck, 27e, 25 and 25h. That's just what i'd do.
you think the heavy black smoke is from the siding or fuel?
i might justify foam on this one, no?
Well as of now you have atleast 4-5 rooms well off, and Fire comming out the peak of the roof.
After relooking at it, you can see the plane is pretty gone..
Just for safety, keep operations up wind, Which upwind is the 1/2 side, downwind the 3/4.
With the wind fire spread is deffinetely going from Point of origin to the rest of the house. If truck is on scene soon after throw up a few portables and attempt to search the 2nd floor fast.
Search of first floor seems out of the question.
Notify 27E&G, 25H, And any Fire service with hazmat.
Notify Multiple 14, and 14A's.
32 for manpower to the house.
Standby- 2engines, 1 truck, 1 Heavy rescue and 3 ambulances.
To scene- 1 truck, 1 engine, 2 FAS Teams, and multiple ambulances.
Ask someone from Massapequa about a plane into a house, It was probably 30 years ago but a small plane that had either just left Republic or was landing at Republic crashed into a house on Pompano Dr. off Carmans Rd. The elderly couple who lived in the house perished as well as the occupants of the plane.
1st Engine - Forget the 1 3/4 line !!! DECK GUN upon arrival. If there are any occupants of the house or plane , and they are able to be saved , the 1st thing that needs to be done is Extinguish the heavy body of fire. As deck gun is operating strtch 2 1/2 lines... BIG FIRE = BIG WATER !!
Get lines into exposures, find another entrance for original fire building and make quick aggressive searches !
Tower ladder ? on original assignment , set up in front the the building ..
back the tower ladder in the neighbors driveway............ seen this done before for a building fire, its a departments signature move, put the outrigger on the side of a building and house......
Thanks ESU for bringing that up. As soon as I saw that image I remembered our incident on Pompano Lane.
It was a 4 passenger Cessna that took off from the old Zahns Airport formerly in North Amityville off New Highway, on a foggy Saturday morning in May 1979. The houses were 1.5 story frame separated by about 20 foot yards. This was 2 or 3 blocks south of the InterCounty shopping center.
The A/C first hot the home across the street and took off the chimney cap of that house and then hit the Alpha/Delta side of the main fire building, and continued into the rear yard, protrudng into an above ground pool.
The impact was so strong it took out the front casement windows of the home. The wings ripped off and poured fuel all over the dwelling as well as the ground between the homes.
First line was a 1.75" off Engine 5 which knocked down the ground fires and then went right into the front door of side A. Line 2 was a 2.5" which also went into the front window. The significant fire was knocked in less then 10 minutes before all the MFD units were on scene. The exposed home on side D (4) had only some melted siding.
There were 4 DOA's in the light aircraft fuselage (pilot and mom/dad/teenage daughter) and an elderly couple in their bed in their 1st floor bedroom on the A/D side. The male homeowner had been a NYC sanitation worker and had just recently retired, only to die in his bed.
Prime consideration for all first responders after the fire is knocked is scene security to leave all of the parts and pieces of the A/C where they are for the FAA and NTSB investigators. If I recall, the accident occurred around 0700 hours and we were in quarters by 1130 hrs, but NCPD stayed on scene well into Sunday midday.
If anyone is interested I can post some pics from that incident.
No need to go to the roof, Life before property right?
The only places someone can survive that is in a closed bedroom, not in a hallway or kitchen. Quick scan of the rooms you can get to. Thats the best you can do, then go into Exterior ops.
Not as a primary responsibility but eventually to cut a hole. Vent upward to try to prevent it from going directly across the rest of the unburned portion on the house. Again life first property second as steoitxup said.....
Chief 241C has it correct. Hit fire quick and hard with deck pipe and tank water till hydrant water is established. 500 or 1000 Gallons applied quickly can achieve a pretty fast knockdown, then go to handlines. Extreme caution for search team after knockdown, due to potential for large amounts of gasoline spreading through house, possibility of flash even after fire has darkened, would suggest use of 21/2" lines.
No need for OIC to worry about notifying FAA, they'll have it already, and then notify NTSB. FAA doesn't even have authority to investigate aricraft accident.
sometimes the chiefs are away and the indian must play if you ever rode the front seat start thinking foam it couldn't hurt M/A start out 2/2/2 if your departmen is small to med larger department like oceanside might not but if this is Hewlett no problem woodmere 1 engine 1 ambulance Valley Stream 1 Tower L/C the fast team inwood 1 engine 1 truck 1 ambulance lynbrook 1 truck to HQ east rockaway 1 engine HQ 1 ambulance valley stream HQ special call inwood and oceanside for extra foam
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