[BoxE11]

Originally Posted by LADDER 3

some towns will be without firehouses which will lead to a longer response time.

Not If you have a crew in the firehouse already. Might actually be quicker.

[jfd111]

This is terrible. How could someone ask for oversite of the 71 independent kingdoms of Nassau County Fire Departments. How could someone think that it would be beneficial to have a county wide system that standardizes equipment and does away with redundant beauracracy's. I would much rather have a system that promotes the fact that you can have 3 different neighboring departments in the same battalion that operate with 3 different types of hose, scba's and radio frequency's. Unbelievable that someone could think they could improve a system that hasn't changed in almost 100 years. What could possibly have changed in those 100 years? I am no fan of Liz Moore or Newsday, but open your eyes and see the big picture.

[fireperson]

Change is sometimes good...The bottom line is if we do not respond in a timely fashion and when calls go unanswered then the POLITICOS will have to do something..A career FD would be typically limited in assembling manpower look around the Country two and three man crews is the rule not the exception..We are having problems, who isn't..the real problem is the disfunctional EMS system we have...this is where a centralized dispatch would allow for a better more efficient service...Also last time I checked nobody (the public we serve) has been storming our District meetings with flaming torches threatening a hostile taekeover..Even with the budget review I know we didn't have anyone show up..Stay the course men we are FIREFIGHTERS trained to deal with the ravages of fire and the worst that can be thrown at us...When it gets bad who do they call...NOT NEWSDAY..US

[DuboHBFD]

Somewhere amongst us there has to be the brains and the know how to start lobbying and supporting ourselves. We are our own worst enemy's, but it is time that we stick together and start lobbying and doing something productive. We have enough people to make a hell of a lot of noise, i suggest we stop talking amongst ourselves, mobilizes and do something about the issue !

[9101]

The best thing departments can do is get more actively involved in community projects. Market yourself, put activity & accomplishments in local papers. The more the public knows of what we do on a daily basis the more the public will fight to save their "local" fire department! This also works well with recuitment. This educated people that we are not just about putting out fires and are a vital part of the community as a whole.

[Harry Rampe]

Originally Posted by MasonDixon

This has nothing to do with what's right or wrong. On Long Island the wind fall of Newsdays article will effect us. As spin stated Upstate in the rural areas this is help they probably need ( there is quite a few departments that scratch calls because they can't get out .) I also agree with the boss, I'll be using my spare time to find a new home out of New York. JMO

I am from rural upstate(Sullivan County).We are dispatched by the county on a 911 system that works well.As for the county fathers taking over the departments,NO WAY! remember they are politicians and can not be trusted.The head of the county emergency services would love it after all he is a glory hound.As for the county buying our equipment and such it would not work.The area is too diversified.I have never heard of a department scratching a call because they could not get out.Sounde like some places in the Buffalo area are having a hard time so instead of fixing a local problem lets redo the whole state.

[bluewave7812]

Originally Posted by Harry Rampe

I am from rural upstate(Sullivan County).We are dispatched by the county on a 911 system that works well.As for the county fathers taking over the departments,NO WAY! remember they are politicians and can not be trusted.The head of the county emergency services would love it after all he is a glory hound.As for the county buying our equipment and such it would not work.The area is too diversified.I have never heard of a department scratching a call because they could not get out.Sounde like some places in the Buffalo area are having a hard time so instead of fixing a local problem lets redo the whole state.

I was just in Buffalo on Wens/Thurs (Honor Guard Detail w/work), they sent 1Eng/1Lad/2Ambu to single ped fall on corner, that RMA. The 1 & 1 arrived first. Talk about overkill!!!

[MasonDixon]

Originally Posted by Harry Rampe

I am from rural upstate(Sullivan County).We are dispatched by the county on a 911 system that works well.As for the county fathers taking over the departments,NO WAY! remember they are politicians and can not be trusted.The head of the county emergency services would love it after all he is a glory hound.As for the county buying our equipment and such it would not work.The area is too diversified.I have never heard of a department scratching a call because they could not get out.Sounde like some places in the Buffalo area are having a hard time so instead of fixing a local problem lets redo the whole state.

HR, politicians aside consolidation is in the near future for some. Sullivan is not where I am talking about. Is that even considered upstate anymore lol. A little further northwest.

[Thinkaboutit]

Originally Posted by jfd111

This is terrible. How could someone ask for oversite of the 71 independent kingdoms of Nassau County Fire Departments. How could someone think that it would be beneficial to have a county wide system that standardizes equipment and does away with redundant beauracracy's. I would much rather have a system that promotes the fact that you can have 3 different neighboring departments in the same battalion that operate with 3 different types of hose, scba's and radio frequency's. Unbelievable that someone could think they could improve a system that hasn't changed in almost 100 years. What could possibly have changed in those 100 years? I am no fan of Liz Moore or Newsday, but open your eyes and see the big picture.

You are absolutely right....there is so much redundancy in this county its ridiculous. Some kind of reform is needed. Think about this....

Let's compare Nassau to the boro of Queens.

Queens has approximately 50 fire houses, so figure about 50 engines and 40 ladders, being there are about 10 single engine houses (only one single ladder house - L116). 1 heavy rescue and a handful of other support units.

Fire Statistics about this boro: (2007)
5,166 Report of Structural Fires
4,375 Report of Non-Structural
38,572 Non-Fire emergencies
42,900 EMS runs
6,151 Malicious False alarms

Total of 677 10-75 or higher. (signal 10's)

Queens has a population of 2.2 Million
Nassau has a population of 1.3 Million

Think about Nassau's Numbers....
71 Departments... Under 300 Signal 10's (2007 stats).
I can't even begin to fathom how many engines, ladders, and heavy rescues.

Probably over 250 engines, over 100 ladders, and probably over 50 heavy rescues. What a waste, we don't even have the manpower to staff these units.