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Old 02-27-2007, 07:57 AM   #1
 
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I've never requested a sticky thread at the top of the page, but on a page related to Firefighter Survival, I really think we should post updates from Chief Billy Goldfeder's website www.firefighterclosecalls.com and leave it at the top of this category.

As I'm sure many of you all know, he has a mailing list called "The Secret List" that was ahead of it's time in the area of information sharing (3 years prior to 9/11) and it was meant for firefighters to share their stories with fellow firefighters about close calls or where things went wrong, as well as other tips of survival.

I, for one, highly recommend that EVERY firefighter (who hasn't already) sign-up for his mailing list and I also think we should post updates from the website in this thread.

Articles and theories are great, but there is no substitute to the real life experiences of our fellow brothers.


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Medium-Duty Aerial Failure in Boston, MA

Hey...
We have posted "the rest of the story" from Pierce Manufacturing related to the situation in Boston earlier this week. It is on our home page, scroll down to News/Updates. The Pierce engineers inspected the damaged aerial ladder yesterday. Their report indicates that the cause of the aerial failure was not due to manufacturing defect or a device design issue. Their report shows that the aerial unit had been damaged in one or more previous incidents which we believe led to the malfunction on Tuesday night. Additional facts are available on our site.
Take Care...BE CAREFUL.
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Batlimore Live Burn LODD Update

Hey....
The following is an article from today's Baltimore Sun. Burning
issue: City Fire Department e-mails raise questions about how
officials chose the site for a live-burn exercise in which a
29-year-old recruit was killed, By Annie Linskey-Baltimore Sun. The
former director of the Baltimore Fire Department's training academy
used a rowhouse for a live-fire exercise in which a recruit died even
though he had earlier expressed reservations about the suitability of
the building, according to e-mails obtained by The Sun.

Kenneth Hyde Sr., who was fired because safety rules were violated
during the fire, had rejected a suggestion that he burn a rowhouse on
a city housing department list of buildings that could be used by
recruits to practice tearing down ceilings and walls.

"No Sir we used the good ones," Hyde wrote to Deputy Chief Theodore
Saunders in an e-mail dated Jan. 22, indicating that he knew previous
exercises had rendered the structures unsuitable for training fire.

But on Feb. 9, Hyde did burn a building from the department's list: a
vacant three-story rowhouse at 145 S. Calverton Road. Cadet Racheal M.
Wilson, 29, was killed in the blaze, which, fire officials say,
violated 36 safety standards. Hyde, through his lawyer, maintains
that he had oral permission from Saunders to burn 145 S. Calverton
Road, and he provided e-mails to The Sun that he said supported his
position. He did not comment further. Saunders disputes that account,
said Rick Binetti, a spokesman for the Fire Department. The department
also provided The Sun with internal e-mails.

Instructors set seven separate fires in the South Calverton Road
rowhouse, at least one of which went out of control and spread
quickly through the open spaces left by the earlier training
exercise.

Wilson, trapped in a third-floor window without a radio or backup
with a hose charged with water, became a casualty of an exercise the
Fire Department says was riddled with safety violations. The exercise
prompted Hyde's termination and the suspension of two top lieutenants.

The live-burn exercise tarnished the reputation of an otherwise
well-regarded fire department and prompted Mayor Sheila Dixon to tap
the Howard County Fire Department to review training and safety
standards.

Hyde has taken the brunt of the blame. In news conferences, Fire
Chief William J. Goodwin Jr. has accused Hyde of lying, saying that
in the immediate aftermath of the fire, Hyde assured commanders that
all safety standards had been followed. Goodwin stood next to Dixon
at a City Hall news conference and said Hyde never had permission to
burn 145 S. Calverton Road.

Crucial question: How that decision came to be made is a continuing
source of debate. The e-mails reviewed by The Sun started the day
after New Year's, when Saunders asked the Housing Authority of
Baltimore City for a list of dwellings that could be used for
training exercises in which academy recruits would tear down walls
and ceilings. "We are not going to burn them," Saunders emphasized in
an e-mail to Michael Braverman, the deputy housing commissioner for
code enforcement.

Jerome Dorich, in charge of demolition for the housing department,
responded the next morning with a list of possible dwellings,
including a strip of empty rowhouses on South Calverton Road. Dorich
warned that the buildings were in poor condition. "Keep in mind that
these structures have been previously condemned unsafe for various
reasons," the e-mail says. "Review these buildings with this in
mind."

The housing department asked to be informed when and which the
buildings would be used for training. On Jan. 4, Saunders complied,
saying in an e-mail that recruits would, that day, pull ceilings at
143 and 145 S. Calverton Road. Weeks later, on Jan. 22, Hyde went
looking for rowhouses to burn. On the morning of Jan. 22, he wrote to
Saunders: "Chief I need 2 good dwellings for burning on Feb. 8 and
Feb. 9. Can you please check and advise." Saunders replied seven
minutes later, asking about the list the housing department had
supplied in early January, when Saunders said he needed buildings for
non-burn exercises.

'Used the good ones' ...."Are there any left from the list we had
several weeks ago?" Saunders asked in that e-mail. One minute later,
Hyde wrote that there were none, that "we used the good ones."

Meanwhile, Saunders wrote a separate e-mail to the housing department
and asked whether it had additional vacant buildings, according to
correspondence reviewed by The Sun. Hyde was not copied on these
e-mails.

Dorich replied, telling Saunders that the housing department did not
have buildings suitable for burns, according to the e-mail. But on
Feb. 5, Rosa Diaz, a housing department official, wrote Saunders and
told him she was still trying to find two houses for the live-burn
exercise.

New source of houses: The next day, Braverman, the code enforcement
official, wrote a long note to Saunders and suggested contacting a
company that takes over vacant city houses for redevelopment.
Braverman included the name and phone number of a contact to call.

Saunders forwarded the e-mail to Hyde, who talked with the developer.
On Feb. 8, Hyde burned one of the developer's buildings on Sinclair
Lane.

But Hyde still needed a building for the Feb. 9 exercise. He chose a
rowhouse on South Calverton Road, one he had previously rejected as
unsuitable in his e-mail exchange with Saunders.

Hyde's lawyer, Peter S. O'Neill, said: "The burn was approved by
senior management." (END)
Take Care-BE CAREFUL,
BillyG
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Stand Down: This Ain't Rocket Science

Hey....
The IAFC has announced the 3rd International Fire Fighter and EMS
Safety Stand Down. This year’s stand down focused on being “Ready
to Respond". The dates are June 17–23. It includes both weekends
this year so all firefighters and departments can take part. In
addition to the expanded schedule, EMS has been added because of the
role EMS plays in emergency service.

The IAFC Safety, Health and Survival Section will be coordinating
with IAFC staff and the IAFC EMS Section will also be providing
recommended activities and resources online at
http://www.iafc.org/standdown
. Last year, 21 different national fire-service organizations worked
with us on the effort and the IAFC will be contacting them to assist
in supporting the Stand Down. For further information or to provide
training materials for online posting, contact IAFC's Shawn Stokes at
703/537-4857 or sstokes@iafc.org <mailto:sstokes@iafc.org>
.

Over 10,000 fire departments participated in the last International
Fire Fighter Safety Stand Down. "We have already lost 18 firefighters
this year and we need to do everything within our power to keep our
first responders safe,” said IAFC President Chief Jim Harmes. Save
the dates so your FD can participate in the event. JUNE 17-23, 2007.

Plan now, appoint the right people who will get this done at your FD.
Set up committees, task forces or whatever ...but get your FD engaged.
Everyone. Involve everyone who rides your apparatus. Make it an EVENT
at your FD. Spend just HALF of the energy on this that some of us do
on a "fun" detail, and the STAND DOWN will matter your FD.

Set up some hands-on "back to basics" READY TO RESPOND training's and
drills that gets everyone involved. What kinda drills? Try this for
example, as related to responding to a house fire: (Drill on each and
every segment mentioned...and these are just samples...these should be
much more in-depth...but you knew that.)

SAMPLE: “Ready to Respond" STAND DOWN DRILL OUTLINE: (Reported
single family dwelling fire)

-Before The Run: (Apparatus readiness, staffing, alarm assignments,
dispatcher roles, radios working right, what channels/channel
coordination, mutual aid training, pre-plans, map books, PT,
health/condition of members, PPE ready, how does the PPE fit, what's
IN your PPE, rope, flashlight, chocks, gloves, tools, knife....)

-Respond (Driving, knowing where to go, seat belts, stop @ red
lights/stop signs, riding assignments/equipment/who brings what off
the rig, staffing, officer supervising)

-Arrival (ICS, personnel tracking, company assignments, staffing
resources, water supply, pump operations, stretching the initial
handline to the fire, backup lines, forced entry, venting,
search/rescue, RIT staffing/qualification, utilities, EMS roles,
traffic control, salvage)

-Incident Under Control: (Investigations, customer service,
overhaul/rehab)

-Returning (Don't fall out of the apparatus or crash going back)

-In Quarters (Backing policies, cleaning the soot off us, your gear,
your equipment and be...

-Ready to Respond to the next run. (What is required?)

Give'm shirts, hats, patches, decals, ice cream (low fat)...whatever
it takes to get the "buy in" by those involved. SHOW your members the
way we died last year. Pictures. Graphics. NIOSH reports. Wake'm up.
Be in their faces. Look at the needless ways we died (vs. the fact
that sometimes, albeit rare, we do have to give our lives)...and
commit to not have the needless deaths happen at your FD. Force a
little "ready to respond" culture change this year.
This ain't rocket science.
Take Care,
BillyG


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Balto. LODD Finger Pointing, Ohio FF Sentenced, New DC Chief

Hey...
The Baltimore Examiner is reporting issues of finger pointing in relation to the tragic death of fire recruit Racheal Wilson. As
reported: Former Baltimore City Fire training director Kenneth Hyde
spoke out for the first time Tuesday, alleging he informed Fire
Department Chief William Goodwin of the details of his “live
burn� exercises prior to the death of the trainee.

Hyde said he gave a PowerPoint presentation on the progress of
Wilson’s class Feb. 1 to top fire officials that contained a
section on his use of live burns, including the Feb. 9 fire that
would prove fatal — a claim fire officials deny. “We discussed
live burns, and the chief safety officer questioned me about them,
including the dates of the burns,� Hyde said. But Rick Binetti, the
communications director for Baltimore City Fire Department, said Hyde
made no such presentation at that meeting. “At the meeting based on
the minutes, and my recollection having been there, the discussion of
live burns never came up,� he said.

At issue is how much top fire officials knew of Hyde’s activities
in conducting live burn training exercises. Mayor Sheila Dixon fired
Hyde after Wilson died Feb. 9 when a live burn training session got
out of control.
Binetti said minutes of the meeting, which do not mention the Feb. 9
live burn, back up his memory.
According to the department’s report into the investigation,
several major errors in the training exercise contributed to
Wilson’s death. Dixon has requested a panel of independent experts
to review the department’s training practices and safety
procedures. The panel will issue recommendations by March 30.

But firefighters union President Stephen Fugate said top fire
officials cannot be trusted, because they lied to him during a recent
meeting with Dixon. Fugate said that during a meeting with Dixon,
Goodwin told Fugate the department’s Chief Safety Officer Bill
Jones ordered Hyde not to conduct the live burn training exercise
that killed Wilson, but Hyde did it anyway. But later, Fugate said,
Jones and Goodwin denied an e-mail was sent. “First said he
didn’t know what I was talking about,� Fugate said.

=OHIO FF SENTENCED IN APPARATUS CRASH: A Fairfield (Ohio) firefighter
has been found guilty of vehicular manslaughter. Fairfield City FF
Matthew Schumann was responding to a fire call when the apparatus he
was driving struck 73-year-old Rayann Cavin's car....who had a green
light. A judge suspended Schumann's 90 day jail sentence on Tuesday
as long as he doesn't violate his two year probation. Schumann must
also pay a $750, perform 250 hours of community service and must go
into counseling.

=NEW D.C. CHIEF: And finally, CONGRATS to Dennis Rubin, an original
Secret List member on media word of his acceptance to become the new
Washington D.C. Fire Chief. The D.C. Mayor is expected to announce
today that he will name Rubin to head the D.C.F.D. Dennis's early
years in the fire service included D.C. as well as a being member and
officer of the Hyattsville VFD in nearby Prince Georges County before
moving on up the ladder to areas such as Virginia, Alabama and most
recently Atlanta. Rubin turned in his resignation in Atlanta
yesterday, advising his last day there will be April 13. He has
headed the AFD since December 2003. We wish him all the best!
Take Care-BE CAREFUL.
BillyG
The Secret List 3-7-07 / 0535 Hours


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Old 03-13-2007, 03:00 AM   #6
 
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KY FF Burned

Hey...
A south-central Kentucky Fire Chief received severe burns while
operating at a brush fire this week. Linwood FD Chief Danny Pippin
suffered burns to his arm, chest and leg while operating at a grass
fire on Wednesday. State officials say he was being treated at the
burn unit at University of Louisville Hospital.
One of the firefighters on the scene said the fire moved so fast, it
took them all by surprise. “We had run out of water and I went to
get the tanker. When I turned back around to look, it was completely
engulfed in flames. You couldn’t see the truck ,the chief or
nothing,” FF, Denny Shelton said.
Multiple departments were called to fight the fire that took about
seven hours to get under control.
A family friend said Pippin is recovering and should be out of the
hospital in a few days
Meanwhile, several forest fires continued to burn throughout
Kentucky. The fires have consumed more than one thousand acres, and
have torched three structures.
Take Care-BE CAREFUL.
BillyG
The Secret List 3-9-07 / 2150 hours


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Civilian Killed in Fire Apparatus Crash

Hey....
A 34-year-old man from Berwyn (Canada) is dead after a two-vehicle
crash involving a volunteer fire department vehicle last Thursday
afternoon. Around 1730 hours, a marked pickup truck from the Grimshaw
Volunteer Fire Department on its way to a fire call, collided with a
Chevrolet car.
The male civilian driver of the Chevrolet was declared dead at the
scene according to the cops. His passenger was treated in hospital
and released. One firefighter was treated in the hospital while a
second had minor injuries. Grimshaw RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted
Police) did not release any other details of the crash. Grimshaw is
northwest of Edmonton.
Take Care-BE CAREFUL.
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FF's In Fla & Tenn Burned-Mobile Home Fires (The Secret List)
Hey....
A Baker County (Florida) firefighter was injured Monday when he fell through the floor of a working mobile home fire. The firefighter, Don Loudermilk, was taken to Shands at the U of F in Gainesville with 2nd and 3rd degree burns to the left side of his back.
FF Loudermilk was part of a crew that went into the doublewide mobile home. A family of three that lived in the residence was not home and no one else was injured in the 0220 fire. FF Loudermilk is expected to be hospitalized for a week and will require skin grafts.

And in Tennessee, a firefighter was severely injured Monday as well, when he was burned (initially reported as a possible flashover) while operating at a mobile home fire in Anderson County. FF Derrick Phillips, 33, was flown to UT Medical Center by Lifestar from the scene in the Woodhaven Trailer Park. Phillips was first listed in critical condition but was later upgraded to serious. Andersonville VFD Chief Mark D! ison said he was confident Phillips would recover.
"There was heavy smoke throughout the whole structure," said Chief Dison. "They thought that they seen fire to the back of the structure, and they were just searching it to make sure all the fire was out and at that time he just got disoriented."
Updates as required here or on the home page.
Take Care-BE CAREFUL,
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FL & MI. Serious Apparatus Crashes

A Detroit fire apparatus that was responding to a call last night was involved in a crash. The apparatus jumped the curb and hit a Ford Focus, pushing the car into the gas pumps. Four firefighters suffered minor injuries, as did the civilian driver of the car. The cause of the crash is not known but an investigation is under way. This is the 2nd serious apparatus crash at the DFD in recent weeks. Fire Engine Operator Joe Torkos, a 47-year-old firefighter, died last month when a speeding dirt bag with a gun, cocaine and two kids in his Chevrolet Tahoe rammed the fire apparatus Torkos was driving, Engine Company 17.
Torkos, an 11 1/2 -year veteran, was ejected and thrown from the apparatus as was the fire officer-who survived with serious injuries.
The dirt bag also died. While no official report has been made available, this is another reminder related to the issue of belting/securing firefighters in the apparatus.

And yesterday in Osceola County, Florida, an engine company was struck and destroyed while operating on the Florida Turnpike. NOTE:
We have posted some amazing pictures from the MVA on our home page, scroll down to News & Related Updates area. No firefighters were injured, but a deputy was airlifted from the scene. There were 13 vehicles involved and 5 fatalities from this chain reaction crash.
The tractor trailer that hit the Osceola fire apparatus left 96 feet of skid marks! From the pictures, you will see that the semi rear-ended the engine and totally destroyed it. It took 5 hours to remove the body of the semi driver from the semi that rear-ended the engine.

Again...we see how DANGEROUS it is on the roadways....and how we must EXPECT drivers to not pay any attention, slow down or see us. It's another reminder to review visibility of apparatus (and FF's), warning equipment, traffic management SOP's, road shut downs and blocking. In this case, the engine's positioning may have save firefighters lives.
Photos have been posted on the website.
Take Care-BE CAREFUL.
BillyG
The Secret List 3-14-07 / 1500 hours
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PA. FF Seriously Injured/Burned

Hey...
This afternoon, several fire companies were operating at the scene of a multiple alarm structure fire on Berne Road in Tildon Township, Berks County, PA. While on scene, a firefighter from Hamburg Fire Company fell through a floor in the fire building. The Incident Commander reported that the firefighter sustained serious injuries including airway burns and was transported to Lehigh Valley Hospital. The firefighter is currently in LVH and is undergoing surgery for his injuries. We will provide updates later.
Take Care-BE CAREFUL.
BillyG
The Secret List 3-16-07 / 1815 Hours
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Do You Know Them?

Hey...
Do you know these names: Richard Stefanakis, Charles Brace, Lloyd
McCulloch, Dusty Jones, Cyril Fyfe and Kevin Olson?

Richard Stefanakis & Charles Brace: While the tragic loss of these
two firefighters in Pittsburgh occurred on March 13, 2004, it was
that date on St. Patrick's Day 3 years ago....and that's how I
remember it. We were with a couple of hundred firefighters in Wayne
Township, IN when the horrible news came in.

At approximately 0830 a fire was reported at the Ebenezer Church in
the City of Pittsburgh. On arrival, PBF firefighters discovered a
smoke haze in the building and proceded to find the fire. As
conditions got worse, companies stretched lines into the structure
after determining the fire had originated in the basement area. The
fire moved fast throughout the building and created a backdraft
(smoke explosion) injuring 5 members. Crews were pulled from the
building and defensive operations were taken. After the main body of
fire was extinguished, crews were in the process of placing hoselines
and ground monitors closer in order to hit the seat of the fire and
HOT SPOTS ....that was in the basement. Without warning, the bell
tower steeple collapsed trapping dozens of firefighters and
completely burying 2 firefighters. Firefighter Richard Stefanakis and
Battalion Chief Charles Brace were killed in the collapse. Their
bodies were recovered from the rubble pile by Pittsburgh
firefighters. The fire killed 2 firefighters and injured 28.

Here is a link to the NIOSH report on that fire:
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/fire/reports/face200417.html
.

When firefighters are killed, every one of us has a high priority
responsibility to study the event, learn from it and do whatever it
takes to make sure it is never repeated. That has to occur at the
smallest rural firehouse to the biggest city firehouse-and it must
affect every firefighter-no matter what. And when we are done
learning-we have to make sure everyone you run calls with learns too.
Who gets that done? You. By spreading the facts. Not some of the
nonsense that goes on in some BMH (Brotherhood My A__ ) chat rooms,
bulletin boards and forums....but by all of us getting the facts from
the reports and from the affected FD's-and putting it in the faces of
those who go with us to fires. Include it in drills, training's,
e-mails-whatever it takes to keep this stuff in their faces so
they-we-us-cannot forget and we don't repeat history. Keeping it in
their faces works. We just gotta wanna to do it.

What about these names?

Similar circumstances happened again when in Mouton, Alabama (on Feb
21, 2006) when Fire Captain Lloyd McCulloch, 63, and Firefighter
Dusty Jones, 23, were HITTING HOT SPOTS at a fire that had been
burning for hours...and then a concrete wall predictably collapsed,
killing them instantly.

The firefighters were pronounced dead at the scene...but killed for
what? As you may have seen on the news clip, the obviously friendly
and wonderful McCulloch (who was also a FD Chaplain) had talked about
the dangers of firefighting, remarking how they were lucky that no one
had been hurt at that job and was thankful to the mutual aid
companies....and then he (and FF Jones) were killed by that unstable
wall moments later. Did you see the picture of Captain McCulloch with
his granddaughter that was on one of the media websites last year?
What a gorgeous little girl with her happy grandfather. That's now
history.

On that night, Moulton Fire Chief Keith Vinson handed the hose line
to his father-in-law, Captain Lloyd McCulloch....but the working fire
at Outdoor Parts and Service had been knocked down to just a few hot
spots in the area where the lines could still reach.

What happened that night caused Fire Chief Keith Vinson to wonder
whether he would ever return to the department again. His decision
had been something he had struggled with since the night he witnessed
the deaths of two volunteer firefighters in his department. "Lloyd
(his Father in law) came up to me and said that he wanted to take the
hose," Vinson said. "He just wanted to spray some water."

After passing the hose line to the 42-year firefighter, the chief
began to walk away. Exactly where he was going is sketchy in his mind
as he thinks back on that evening. What he does remember is hearing a
noise and looking up to the see the top of the front wall of the
building move about a foot.

"I hollered back and told Lloyd and Dusty (Jones) to get out of
there," Vinson said. Just seconds after McCulloch and Jones heard the
chiefs call, the wall gave way and collapsed on top of them. "It's
something that you never expect or really know how to plan for," the
chief said of losing not only two of his most dedicated firemen, but
losing his father-in-law, too. In the year after the LODD's, Vinson's
mind has replayed the images of the wall's collapse. "I just kept
seeing it in my head," he said.

A few weeks ago, Chief Keith Vinson announced his retirement
effective June 1 2007. He will have served the fire department for 25
years.

Here is that NIOSH Report:
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/fire/reports/face200607.html

Or What About These Names?

In Yellowknife, Canada, two more tragic deaths happened two years ago
today, on March 17 of 2005.....when two firefighters were killed while
operating in a detached saw shed fire...a saw shed. An outside shed
used to saw lumber at a home supply business....what's that value? A
simple shed. So they died for a shed.

Yellowknife Fire Lieutenant Cyril Fyfe, 41, and Firefighter Kevin
Olson, 24, (a probie and newlywed) were inside the burning shed when
the part of the roof-and all that was on it-came down on them. They
were crushed by the building roof and the weight of heavy ice, snow
and 4 firefighters on that roof. The 4 firefighters were on top of
the roof opening up...and they escaped without serious injuries. Lt.
Fyfe and FF Olson died from being crushed inside the shed.

We need to do our best to protect property. That is our mission...but
the priority of LIFE and PROPERTY are at two VERY different levels.
Some firefighters will kick and scream saying that "it is our job to
protect property"...yeah it is. But the two are very different. Some
firefighters feel "if we die doing that...that's just a risk of the
job". Take your head out of your a**.

Simple logic: If you like going to fire calls and love this job, why
wouldn't you want to delay your death as long as possible? If your
families don't want you to die...and your FD doesn't want you to
die...and the building owners and occupants don't care if you
die....then who is it that we are getting killed for? Who then is it,
that wants you to die? For who? For what? Sometimes we have to die
while attempting a rescue.

Most of the times we don't.

Take some time this week to remember the families, friends, fellow
firefighters and fire officers of Pittsburgh Battalion Chief Charles
Brace, 55, Firefighter Richard Stefanakis, 51, Moulton's Fire Captain
Lloyd McCulloch, 63 and Firefighter Dusty Jones, 23 as well as
Yellowknife, Canada Fire Lieutenant Cyril Fife, 41, and Firefighter
Kevin Olson, 24. You know the names-now let your firefighters know
them.
Take Care-BE CAREFUL,
BillyG
The Secret List 3-17-07 / 2245 Hours


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PA. FF Seriously Injured/Burned

Hey...
This afternoon, several fire companies were operating at the scene of a multiple alarm structure fire on Berne Road in Tildon Township, Berks County, PA. While on scene, a firefighter from Hamburg Fire Company fell through a floor in the fire building. The Incident Commander reported that the firefighter sustained serious injuries including airway burns and was transported to Lehigh Valley Hospital. The firefighter is currently in LVH and is undergoing surgery for his injuries. We will provide updates later.
Take Care-BE CAREFUL.
BillyG
The Secret List 3-16-07 / 1815 Hours
www.FireFighterCloseCalls.com
UPDATE: PA. FIREFIGHTER BURNED/INJURED

*****UPDATE: PA. FIREFIGHTER BURNED/INJURED: We have been advised
that the Hamburg, PA firefighter we wrote about last night is still
in critical condition. He is communicating with his family through
use of hands. He will undergo some additional testing at Lehigh
Valley Hospital to better determine the injuries to his breathing
tract. Updates to follow either here or on the News & Related Updates
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