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Old 08-19-2006, 02:55 PM   #1
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We've hashed out the "working car fire" issue on here, or at least I think we have. So what else is considered useless or not really that important?

What do you hear on the radio that is either obvious or doesn't need to be said?

"Fire Com Engine XXX is 22 on a hydrant."

Well shouldn't all engines proceed to hydrants?

"Negative at this time."

Not to be confused with any other time?


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Old 08-19-2006, 04:19 PM   #2
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what would be more appropriate would be Engine XXX 22 at the hydrant on the corner of A and B streets...i could see that so other engines know that hydrant is taken...

theres a lot of redundancy on the radio..."alright 23"...isnt the purpose of sayin "23" to avoid verbal acknowlegments as in "ok" or "alright" or "show me 21"...just sayin "##00 21"

i said it in another post...its the people not the procedures that are the problem...


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Old 08-19-2006, 04:35 PM   #3
 
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BE ADVISED


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Old 08-19-2006, 05:36 PM   #4
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YEP THAT ONE TOO... :blackeye:


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Old 08-19-2006, 05:59 PM   #5
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Be advised of what ..?

and

"Show this unit 21"

Um, when did a pumper in Nassau County turn into a patrol car in East New York?????????


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Old 08-19-2006, 07:24 PM   #6
 
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When no units are are the road and they say

"all units respond signal 12"


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When no units are are the road and they say

"all units respond signal 12"
Are you refrencing the AFA tripped by matches used for "Sanitary reasons" a few nights ago?


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Old 08-19-2006, 08:21 PM   #8
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Well that might be stretching it ... because once units are on the road, they can respond accordingly.


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Old 08-19-2006, 08:39 PM   #9
 
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Almost anything said by the officer of the fifth due engine to a one bedroom contents fire lol


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When no units are are the road and they say

"all units respond signal 12"
Are you refrencing the AFA tripped by matches used for "Sanitary reasons" a few nights ago?

Yea, 2 nights ago i was woken up by my pager going off at a bar, and they had to 13 because of "sanitary reasons"???. Sanitary reasons... hmm... what could that mean?
But no, thats not what i meant. For example: 3 nights ago there was a automatic at the birch elementry school. whe all units who signaled 21 22'd, the cheif said there is a "signal 12". Then 650 responded "23. All merrick units respond signal 12." But why? all units 22'd


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Old 08-19-2006, 10:45 PM   #11
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Um, any chance that the chief wanted it announced that the situation was under control? Any chance that there may have been more units responding. If not on the road, possibly responding, as per the rolling order? Just a hunch.


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Old 08-19-2006, 11:08 PM   #12
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FYI Merrick uses 650 not firecom


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reading this tread it seems that we have run out of interesting things to discuss. :salute:


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Old 08-20-2006, 10:27 PM   #14
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YEAH HUH ...


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Old 08-23-2006, 04:06 PM   #15
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Ummm...doesn't signal 12 mean - Fire / Situation under control?


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Old 09-08-2006, 02:04 PM   #16
 
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engine xyz is 22 signal 40???

How the hell are you 22 idiot!!!!


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Old 09-08-2006, 03:21 PM   #17
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using "k" .... nassau doesnt use it


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no offense to city guys but the city guys who transmit the opposite way, like if they are in 123 and they are calling 321

123 to 321 we have fire in the rear....

whatever you get the drift......


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Old 09-09-2006, 12:40 PM   #19
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Nassau: "Fire Com 123 ..."

City: "123 to (respective borough) ..."

It's really not too hard. Anyone who can't do it simply because their "just so used to it" is full of it.

And while we're on the subject ... saying "K" might go back to the days of the telgraph, however PD used it as well. If your calling the borough communications office and expect a reply, you'd finish your message with a "K". However you would never say "10-4 K", just "10-4". Again, anyone who mixes it up and says "Fire Com 123 K ..." is just full of crap. It's obvious mixing of SOP's and you sound stupid. The only exception I might consider is if someone was a dispatcher in the City and then worked out here as well, but even then I doubt that they'd be confusing certain things like this.


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K is short for "OK" It is used in HAM and other radio communications to signify the ending od a transmission.

My pet peeve is the term "SHOW ME" Firecom: 123 Show me 22...


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I remember when FDNY used " Will-Co" after every transmission.
It meant will comply.


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Old 09-10-2006, 08:45 PM   #23
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Roger-Wilco is used a lot in the aviation industry.


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Old 09-10-2006, 09:28 PM   #24
 
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Legend, you make an exception for anyone who works in the city and also works out here if they slip once in a while? Very interesting observation you made and brought a hot topic to light. Very RARELY do you ever hear a city dispatcher that works out here say "k" but my pet peeve is how they drum it into all dispatchers heads in the city that there is no zero, it's "O" not zero. Nothing wrong with teaching that in the city, what works well there is fine with me, but for crap sake, leave it in the CITY. When you came out here, we here in Nassau believe not only was the alphabet invented for a reason but along with that the numbering system was also invented and should be used when your here. That's how things work in Nassau. I don't make the rules, I just like to follow them. You wanna hear an office with "O" desease, keep an ear out on your former employer on the south shore, every week, your bound to hear it.


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Old 09-10-2006, 10:12 PM   #25
 
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well i love the city guys that have the need to say ladder 303 or engine 354 21. Why? do members of the departments not know what the rig is responding are the chiefs unsure????? man cut the crap we are NOT the city and there is no "K" in Nassau County



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