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Old 10-07-2008, 01:30 PM   #1
 
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There is a new product on the market that is being used instead of wood to secure vacant structures. It was first discovered in the city, and they have put out a safety bulletin in regards to it, and has made its way to Nassau(Hemp.). The company uses metal security gates over the windows and doors. It is going to be a labor and time consuming task to remove these gates and they are a certain death trap for any members that become trapped behind them. I urge you to pass this info on to all your members.
Go to http://www.vententersearch.com/suppl...ationsheet.pdf to view this system.



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Old 10-07-2008, 05:40 PM   #2
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IF ANYONE HERE HAS A MEMBER IN THEIR HOUSE WHO IS ALSO A CITY FF, ASK THEM ABOUT THESE. THE COMPANY WHO INSTALLS THESE PRODUCTS WILL ONLY PUT THEM ON STRUCTURES THAT ARE COMPLETLY VACANT AND ALSO PROVIDE A DVD FROM CHICAGO FD IN REGUARDS TO REMOVING THEM. I'VE ALSO RECENTLY SEEN A NEWER VERSION AT WORK WHICH IS A LITTLE HARDER TO REMOVE. WAS ONLY TIME BEFORE THEY ARRIVED ON LONG ISLAND.


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Old 10-07-2008, 05:44 PM   #3
 
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There was a very good article on this system in July's issue of Firehouse.


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Old 10-07-2008, 07:41 PM   #4
 
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Does anyone have a copy of the Chicago FD DVD? I would like to see it.


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Old 10-07-2008, 09:14 PM   #5
 
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Theres one going around our job E-5, The Capt. of Sq. 252 did it out at the rock, pretty indepth, look for it at your Qtrs


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Old 10-07-2008, 11:32 PM   #6
 
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I'm gonna bet it looks just like the DVD from Chicago, if you know what I mean.


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Old 10-08-2008, 12:31 AM   #7
 
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The literature for them has been around for some time now. They are not hard to tackle as it would seem. Knowing the idea behind their design and cutting in the right spots is the key. VES web gave a bit better visual than that FE article.


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Old 10-08-2008, 12:47 AM   #8
 
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Theres one going around our job E-5, The Capt. of Sq. 252 did it out at the rock, pretty indepth, look for it at your Qtrs
Just saw it at work. Very interesting, never knew this was out there. How long has this been around?


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Old 10-09-2008, 11:31 AM   #9
 
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Started to pop in East New York, Brownsville area a couple of months ago, I think they've been in areas outside of NY for a few years now, just starting to become popular here.I think we are gonna start seeing more of this


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Old 10-09-2008, 11:40 AM   #10
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Has it been seen anywhere out on the island yet? Or just mostly the city at this time?


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Old 10-09-2008, 10:40 PM   #11
 
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Hempstead has one confirmed Vacant PD Fortified with the VPS System (sure we will be seeing more soon enough), Appears to be secured with two types of entry doors, and two different styles of Window Securment measures.


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Old 10-10-2008, 12:12 AM   #12
 
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I just sent an e-mail to the manufacturer giving them my full pedigree and contact info asking for a copy of the DVD. I'll let you know how I make out.


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Old 10-10-2008, 12:11 PM   #13
 
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There will be an article in the next WNYF about these too.


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Old 10-11-2008, 06:41 PM   #14
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They're popping up in Maryland too. Below is an article from the Kentland website. They just had a fire in a vacant utilizing the VPS system.

.: Kentland Volunteer Fire Company, Prince Georges' County Maryland, 100% Volunteer :.


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Old 10-12-2008, 06:24 AM   #15
 
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They're popping up in Maryland too. Below is an article from the Kentland website. They just had a fire in a vacant utilizing the VPS system.

.: Kentland Volunteer Fire Company, Prince Georges' County Maryland, 100% Volunteer :.


Was thier response time delayed while they waited for their helmets to cool off enough so they could touch them after they took it out of the oven?


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Old 11-02-2008, 11:15 PM   #16
 
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Not that its surprizing but here's another fire with this system, DETROITFIREPIX- powered by SmugMug


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Old 11-04-2008, 02:03 PM   #17
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Does anyone have a copy of the Chicago FD DVD? I would like to see it.

I was in touch with a friend who is a Chicago firefighter. He wasn't aware of a DVD however he did send me the Chicago FD Training Bulletin for VPS .
If anyone would like a copy send me a PM and I'll make sure you get one.

I asked him to keep an eye out for any other material on this.


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Old 11-08-2008, 01:28 AM   #18
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I had the bulletin made into a PDF file. I mailed it out to those who requested a copy. If you asked me for a copy and didn't get it, let me know.


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