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Old 07-05-2008, 09:01 AM   #51
 
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I Was Thinking The Same Thing!


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Old 07-05-2008, 09:24 AM   #52
 
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To all the divers in the long beach surface water rescue unit, pretty much every call you go on we go on and every call we go on you go on, If you guys have no intentions of forming a dive team or cant do to political reasons right now combine both of ours. i have mentioned this to your chiefs and my chiefs and both would have no problem with letting your divers dive with us. it should be looked into since we both get toned out at the same time. now both departments will have more than enough divers


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Old 07-05-2008, 09:26 AM   #53
 
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and as for my newsday comment that lats was defending me on to Signal 12, in Island Park we have had 4 new members join because of positive press in the papers, local papers cause newsday never prints the good things we do, these members came to the firehouse and said i saw that you guys made a save at that house fire i never thought you guys did stuff like that. People read that a vol dept made a difference they want to be a part of it. Last time i checked we all need more members who care


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Old 07-05-2008, 08:16 PM   #54
 
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I don't think that we really need that many dive teams in Nassau County. What we do need are more people trained as rescue swimmers, and boats that can quickly deploy them. Generally, divers are going to be used for recovery. In my opinion, using a diver for a surface rescue is not the way to go. This is why the Coast Guard does not equip their rescue swimmers with SCUBA equipment. The gear is slow to set up and put on, and it really kills your speed and maneuverability in the water---not to mention that 98% of your saves are going to be on the surface, and not from a submerged vessel or vehicle.

We don't have a dive team or water rescue unit in my department, but we do have quite a bit of water in our district so I keep a bag of gear in my trunk. Just the basics: mask, fins, snorkel, drysuit with boots and gloves, hood, wetsuit, line, flotation devices, knife, etc. Basically everything but my tank, regs, BC, and weights. I figure it might come in handy one day, whether it's in the Sound, a pond, or a swimming pool in the winter.

I love diving, but I don't think that adding more dive teams to the county is going to be a good use of taxpayer dollars. Adding rescue swimmer training would be a better use of the funds, in my opinion.


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Old 07-06-2008, 12:57 AM   #55
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I don't think that we really need that many dive teams in Nassau County. What we do need are more people trained as rescue swimmers, and boats that can quickly deploy them. Generally, divers are going to be used for recovery. In my opinion, using a diver for a surface rescue is not the way to go. This is why the Coast Guard does not equip their rescue swimmers with SCUBA equipment. The gear is slow to set up and put on, and it really kills your speed and maneuverability in the water---not to mention that 98% of your saves are going to be on the surface, and not from a submerged vessel or vehicle.

We don't have a dive team or water rescue unit in my department, but we do have quite a bit of water in our district so I keep a bag of gear in my trunk. Just the basics: mask, fins, snorkel, drysuit with boots and gloves, hood, wetsuit, line, flotation devices, knife, etc. Basically everything but my tank, regs, BC, and weights. I figure it might come in handy one day, whether it's in the Sound, a pond, or a swimming pool in the winter.

I love diving, but I don't think that adding more dive teams to the county is going to be a good use of taxpayer dollars. Adding rescue swimmer training would be a better use of the funds, in my opinion.

Thats kind of what i was trying to say,, but no one seemed to get it,, maybe you'll have better luck passing the info. So far I have seen one documented save by a SCUBA diver,,, I know there are others, and as I previously stated I'm very PRO-dive team, but playing the devils advocate, having quickly deployable rescue swimmers and surface people makes a lot of sense, once they slip beneath the surface of the water, their chances drop considerably.


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