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Old 01-24-2008, 02:01 AM   #1
 
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Do you REALLY know what "lurks" in your district? Utility company owned buildings and properties next to and in back of houses?

Some "prime examples"....

Water Company- Water towers are obvious, but there are many "substations" that are not so noticeable. They have been known to contain underground tanks sporting thousands of gallons of fuel (backup for pumps) and thousands of gallons of chlorine. In one area, one such pumping station is only accessible through a driveway and is surrounded on all sides by Private Dwellings.

Gas Company- Even less obvious, there are many 1 stry brick 20x30 buildings that lay on properties surrounded by trees/overgrowth, etc so they are less "asthetically offensive"...I'm sure you can imagine the volume of gas that passes through these buildings....

Electric Company- Probably the least "hidden", as major substations are usually VERY visable, especially by the amount & diameter of wires surrounding them.

Pre-planning is based on what you can see, as well as WHAT YOU CANT SEE.

Dont wait til the last minute to find certain tidbits out.....

...Many schools, gas stations & other large buildings have underground fuel tanks. Some have weight restrictions, most do not post them. 2 Tower Ladders & 2 Engines on top of a large diesel tank might equal one big mess!

We always look and think about the obvious or little things, but also be creative, think about the simple things too when pre-planning.


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Old 01-24-2008, 10:26 AM   #2
 
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i got a hot tub, a fish pond w/ chinese fighting fish in it, a cockfighting ring, a sex swing for summer parties, all my utilities are located in the front yard so not to disturb me during my play time. oh and during the cold winter months i have 7 portable propane heaters scattered around the yard to keep the roosters warm during their training.


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Old 01-24-2008, 03:04 PM   #3
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your public pool- most have a very large cholrine storage , hot day a fire in that room would be nightmare.


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Old 01-24-2008, 04:32 PM   #4
 
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Do any dept's keep track of who heats their pool and or house with propane?


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Old 01-24-2008, 05:50 PM   #5
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i have a pond in my backyard so if theres a fire by my house and you cant see because of smoke you might end up swimming.


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Old 01-24-2008, 05:52 PM   #6
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your public pool- most have a very large cholrine storage , hot day a fire in that room would be nightmare.
i know ive worked for the last 4 summers at the town pool.. and the fire alarms went off all the time during the day and fire dept was never alerted..so i thought it was connected to an alarm company. so how you think it feels to recieve a general at 1am there..lol


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Old 01-24-2008, 05:56 PM   #7
 
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LOL, I didnt mean you're "backyard". I meant district!!!!!

>>PDDISP!2- Very BIG Nightmare. Echo, Rath, Averill just to name some local public pools within the TOH that store ENORMOUS amounts of chlorine indoors....

>>MasonDixon-Re: private pools, anyone's guess. I have personally trenched rather large gas lines off mains to feed pool heaters in backyards....

...On another side/pre-plan note, on a recent trip to Suffolk County, buildings with ANY kind of haz mat in them (Commercial) have LARGE HM Placards on the front of the building identifying the materials inside (i.e. Auto Body Shop, Pool Place, etc)


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Old 01-24-2008, 06:06 PM   #8
 
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propane is a tough one...usually on 'nicer' properties the tanks are so well hidden you would think they have natural gas.

about 10 years ago or so Glenwood had a propane leak...but these were no regular propane tanks...the whole glenwood and seacliff were evacuated up to glen cove avenue...



these are the tanks being transported out on Glen Cove Road...right near 'Brookville Plaza' (Waldbaums)


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Old 01-24-2008, 06:17 PM   #9
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Thats one He[[ of a BBQ!


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Old 01-25-2008, 06:09 PM   #10
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Ill take some ribs a burger with cheese and a nice cold sam adams please


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Old 01-25-2008, 06:29 PM   #11
 
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actually i dont know whats in my "districts " backyard all i do is sit home and drink and post on the rant


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Old 01-26-2008, 12:49 AM   #12
 
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i remember bein on that call, my dad was an assistant chief at the time and i can remeber thinking to myself, they are evacuating everyone yet there are rigs and chief cars all over the place, with personel standing around, very nerve racking


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Old 01-29-2008, 09:15 AM   #13
 
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Those tanks, 1 Million Gals total, were burried underground. A valve they were working on failed. A few years after, they removed the tanks, as they were no longer needed.


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Old 01-29-2008, 01:38 PM   #14
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Another great example are the remote sewage pumping stations. They actually go several stories down. Theres plenty of methane there too. They are all fed with high voltage electric, and have plenty of moving parts. They are also equipped with generators, so even once you cut the incoming power to one, it fires up the generator. They also just look like small inconspicuous buildings.


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Old 02-07-2008, 06:55 AM   #15
 
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My area has buckeye pipeline valves, JFK airport. An MTA power station for the IND "A" line, houses in the rear of other houses.

Just about the whole Broad Channel is fueled by propane.


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Old 02-07-2008, 07:37 PM   #16
 
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Oysterbay, commander oil company, hole crap load of fuel


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Old 02-07-2008, 07:39 PM   #17
 
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bar b q for the next 20 years non stop on one of thoughs tanks. lol


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Old 02-07-2008, 11:19 PM   #18
 
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bar b q for the next 20 years non stop on one of thoughs tanks. lol
Nice 5th. Batt. Drill


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Old 02-07-2008, 11:50 PM   #19