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Best regards, Rant Boss.
We're discussing who is the busiest dept. in Nassau?
by workers is usually hempstead, by total alarms is long beach, and in size has to be either wantagh or manhasset-lakeville. wantagh is a big district to begin with, plus they have jones beach all the way east. manhasset-lakeville is a really big district too. their district stretches from great neck to new hyde park.
Long Beach by far is the busiest, Long Beach proper is only about 5 square miles, but is very dense with all our high rises, our call volume has dropped over the last few years, I remember being over 5,000 now we are in area of 4600.
[quote="stepitxup"]Syosset it the biggest.
LB with the most alarms- Paid
Hempstead- most consisten work load.[/qu
why is it such a big deal that long beach is paid? you don't know what our call ratio is! Even if we weren't paid we would still have the highest number of calls!
I think the more important point is not that we would still have that large call volume as it is that we probably still do respond to the most calls as volunteers since we respond on 9's, 8's, 99's, 100's, fire alarms etc. in Atlantic and West Atlantic Beach as well as all alarms in LB other than 1st 9's and 1st 8's.
I think the reason people will mention that LB has IAFF personal is because a fair amount of Long Beach's alarms are handled by the IAFF personal and not by the volunteers. Correct me if I am wrong, but if the bulk of Long Beach's alarms are EMS (like EVERYONE ELSE), and for the volunteers to be alerted, the UFA ambulance has to already be out on a run. Usually? As with some still alarms as well ... no? There is no doubt that Long Beach Fire Department is the busiest. However there can be a fair amount of alarms that the volunteers aren't even aware of, because the UFA handles them? Like I said, correct me if I am wrong. So just maybe, a pager in the home of a Massapequa firefighter goes off more than a pager in the home of a Long Beach firefighter. Don't know for sure, I'm no where near Long Beach. And like everywhere else, the bulk of all alarms (probably an exception being if you either do not provide EMS coverage or you are the secondary EMS provider) are EMS alarms. So absolutely, the LBFD takes the cake for total alarms. But just keep in mind what I pointed out and know that there are plenty of other departments that do a very high number of alarms ... and yet they do not have IAFF personal. As far as work? I think that by far, Hempstead sees the most work. And if you ask anyone, I think any firefighter worth his salt would rather go to a working fire or two during a two week period, than run 20 automatic alarms over a 2 day period anytime - whether they are paid or not.
I think the reason people will mention that LB has IAFF personal is because a fair amount of Long Beach's alarms are handled by the IAFF personal and not by the volunteers.
Thanks 12, thats what i meant. Nothing bad. LB would still run alot of calls, but you gotta admit the paid guys take alot of weight off the vollys. Thats why they're there.
The IAFF take a lot of the aided cases and still alarms. LB vollies do run secondary to IAFF on aided's but there are still a lot of 2nd 9's here. Also the IAFF runs stuck elevators and line trouble alarms. I just think it gets talked about on here a lot that Long Beach is paid and that the vollies don't do much and it is far from the truth. Last month I averaged 3 calls a day and only accfrued a 73% response. Sometimes I think I should just sleep in my car on the ramp. Signal 12' words of the IAFF taking a fair amount of the alarms in my opinion is not even close to the truth.
I think the more important point is not that we would still have that large call volume as it is that we probably still do respond to the most calls as volunteers since we respond on 9's, 8's, 99's, 100's, fire alarms etc. in Atlantic and West Atlantic Beach as well as all alarms in LB other than 1st 9's and 1st 8's.
Long Beach may be the busiest fire department, but as far as number of alarms where the volunteers are required to respond... we're most likely not even in the top 10 in the county.
long beach responded to just under 1300 fire calls last year with 14 ''sig 10's'' and probobaly 10 others that weren't declared as official ''10's''. there are 8 companies in LB 1 paid and 7 vol. the paid crew in LB do a great job but they could not handle the fire/ems load here without the volunteers. nor could the volunteers do it with out the paid guys . you wouldn't be able to tell at a alarm in LB who the paid crew was if you didn't know because we work so well together. what i'm trying to say is we work as one dept not two different ones and therefore should be considered as such. as for as busiest in work every year hempstead is in there own zip code with no one even close. long beach consistently finishes in the top 5 in nassau. and as far as other depts that run high numbers and don't have the UFA i doubt there are many running around 5000 total calls. oh yeah, and we can't forget about our third truck company the renegade254 boys for all the help they be given us for going on 100 plus days
who is the busiest dept. in Nassau?
