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Every department that has a 'fly car' usually has some incentive for taking it.
(i.e.: detail credit/special detail + call credit, ems hours, etc.)
I know most people take it because they want to, not just for the 'benefits' of taking it....Some people are just buffy. We've been talking about trying to get the techs to take the car out more often, so i want to see what other depts do.
What does your department offer for taking out the fly car? Is there a minimum amount of hours you have to take it out? What are the limitations of taking it (can't go out of district, no civilians in vehicle, etc.)
My department, you get 'contact hours,' which really doesn't mean anything, if your % for the quarter is going to be low, the chiefs will 'help you out' if you take the fly car a few days. You can go out of district, just notify the dispatcher, and there really isn't a rule about civilian occupants.
The biggest incentive in taking the first responder out is gasoline. With gas prices today its worth taking the responder out and not paying for gas in your pov especially if you respond to a lot of calls anyway.
Another incentive is call credit. You can sign up for a shift, take the responder out and get call credit even if there are no fire or ems calls.
Last edited by Commander : 03-07-2008 at 01:14 PM.
You can go into neighboring districts. Min 4 hours Max 12 hours. You have to go on every call. You get paid $10.00 for every 4 hours you do, Monday-Friday 6am-6pm. They consider that meal. Pretty much saying we will buy you food if you take the fly car for 4 hours.
You can go into neighboring districts. Min 4 hours Max 12 hours. You have to go on every call. You get paid $10.00 for every 4 hours you do, Monday-Friday 6am-6pm. They consider that meal. Pretty much saying we will buy you food if you take the fly car for 4 hours.
just curious how do you get the money to the members? cash, check, etc? It sounds like a good program
the "perk" of the fly car should be getting EMS care on scene quick...guaranteeing an EMS response...AND being a little Buffy...that being said...I'm deeply opposed to receiving $ for FD responsibilities...we're volunteer...
Fly Cars are a great idea if they are done properly...
I'm deeply opposed to receiving $ for FD responsibilities...we're volunteer...
Although I agree with this statement 999 times out of 1000, I do like the idea of "paying for meals" if you take the fly car. If a dept. is paying its members minimum money like that and one of their rules states that the member with the fly car must respond to all EMS calls, than it is definitely a good idea.
For departments whose ambulance is first due in their own district (which is most of them), you are guaranteeing that their will be someone will medical training responding and on scene in a timely fashion to take care of the people in your own community.
We all know the manpower issues are a reality in every department at some point in the day, if not all day, everyday.
Last edited by AnOutsider : 03-08-2008 at 03:40 PM.
Boy, you guys are spoiled. We don't even have a fly car. And the incentive should be getting to scene, involved in pt care, so maybe you can give an update on pt status so everyone doesn't have to bring in a million bags. That was on another thread. Getting paid as a volly can get the unwilling to do the obvious--be a volly.
I don't believe my dept has a time restriction that you can have the car. You get a call credit for every 3 hours you have the car in service plus any calls you have. The car is not allowed out of the district.
You can go into neighboring districts. Min 4 hours Max 12 hours. You have to go on every call. You get paid $10.00 for every 4 hours you do, Monday-Friday 6am-6pm. They consider that meal. Pretty much saying we will buy you food if you take the fly car for 4 hours.
I like the money idea. Its not like your actually profiting much from it. People in sweat shops make more than $2.50 an hour haha. If you have a couple of extra bucks to spend, its more likely you'll be out getting coffee, food or whatever else. At least your on the road in the car, it shaves off the minute or 2 it takes you to get your stuff together, put on shoes, lock up your house and run out. So in essence the district is paying pocket change to allow a patient to get medical care a minute or 2 faster. Plus its an incentive for more people to take the fly car, and more people to get certified.
I like the money idea. Its not like your actually profiting much from it. People in sweat shops make more than $2.50 an hour haha. If you have a couple of extra bucks to spend, its more likely you'll be out getting coffee, food or whatever else. At least your on the road in the car, it shaves off the minute or 2 it takes you to get your stuff together, put on shoes, lock up your house and run out. So in essence the district is paying pocket change to allow a patient to get medical care a minute or 2 faster. Plus its an incentive for more people to take the fly car, and more people to get certified.
I'm confused - if your dept has fire chiefs who respond to the scene to administer initial care (perhaps NCPD also at scene), wouldn't the guy who takes the fly car better serve his dept by going directly to the firehouse and rolling the ambulance ?
Would reduce the amount of dispatches "signal 32 on a signl 9, add'l personell and/or driver needed "?
It looks like the name says it all , you have 3 posts total 2 out of the 3 are b.s. First off if the chief's do respond and the call is a cardiac not all chief's are emt's or aemt's alot of depts. just require chief's to have a cpr card so if he does pull up on a cardiac what is the harm of a tech that pulls up on the scene that can do alot more to administer the help that is needed
Why take the fly car?
